Great Don thanks so much ... wow 1997 ... heading towards 20 years now. How time flies. Wayback Machine doesn't seem to have those 1997 postings anymore but here it is in 1999 when the forum was changing format. Quite a few postings from DonM on it http://web.archive.org/web/20000914045516/http://www.synthzone.com/msg/hansen/hanseneold.html