Chas, A friend plays keyboard way above average and plays Trumpet. He said there was no way he could ever improvise as good on the trumpet as a piano or keyboard, because you can see what you are doing staring at the keyboard.

Johnny Griffin, Dexter Gordon, John Coltrane, Sonny Rollins and a few other tenor sax players are not great musicians, they are geniuses. That's why it is hard for many to appreciate them. One comment here years ago was "I don't like Coltrane, he plays too many notes."

It's similar to us trying to really appreciate the things that Einstein did. These people are way smarter (Geniuses) in their field then we are able to comprehend.

The Country guitarist says "I'd go crazy listening to that Jazz!" The Genius says, How small is this guys brain to play 40 years of 3,4,5, chord stuff."

It's like one guy can do a tune up with plugs, wires etc. The other guy can take an engine completely apart, every single little piece and put it back together again.

I'll admit that if I lived for 1000 years and practiced everyday I could never play a good as the 4 Tenor sax player I mentioned above, nor do I know anyone on this board that could do it either, because we have not musical geniuses here.

Oh one more very important point. Ask any honest sax player and they will admit that Tenor is quite a step up harder to play than an Alto. If they say different, you tell them that Boo Hargis and a host of other sax players say that they are lying and if not they are extremely stupid, period.