Mirza.....again I appreciate your own "civility" in your replies though your dogmatic style of writing can be exasperating.

I find the main difference between everyone in this thread and me is that you all refuse to even consider what the "other side" is trying to say. I pride myself in listening to and exploring an argument from all directions. The one thing I noticed about Liberals is that they refuse to expose themselves to anything other than what they devoutly believe in.

Example: I'm completely anti-gun. But, I'm more than willing to listen to opponents of "anti-gun" sentiments and then make up my mind about the issue.

We both know by now I watch Fox news. Are you aware they have Liberals on the show to counter the right wing "extremism (?)? That is why I watch it. I'm presented with all points of view about an issue. When I watch Liberal news shows, it's all about how bad and how incompetent and how ignorant Conservatives are. Completely one-sided.

Now....I view you the same way. You refuse to see anything other than what you see. That's OK with me. But I find I have healthier discussions when folks are open to an opposing point of view.

Meantime...I respect your position. I never knock anyone for their belief system, except for the Bill O'Reilly comments.

And, in response to the person who said he's an "embarrassment," well....Bill and Hannity and Rush have been on prime time television probably longer than Letterman at this point. They must be doing SOMETHING right?

BTW.....I've traveled extensively, lived in Western Europe for 10 years, and worked as a musician in every country (in Western Europe). In London, I played for every nationality in the world for 4 years in a particular venue. I've seen and heard enough of different cultures and different political viewpoints than most.

What it comes down to in the end is.......everything that has been said in this thread is "opinion" and not "fact!" You sound like a smart person.....I'm sure you can understand that!

I'm out of here now. I prefer to spend my time "practicing my instrument" rather than spending that time getting involved with endless political discussions.

MARK