I suppose it's a big upgrade for you Bachus, as I don't think you owned a Tyros4 before you purchased a Tyros5...you had a Korg, did you not?

I've been playing Yamaha arrangers since their very first, I've been an arranger clinician for the company for too many years, and, I've spent a lot of time on the Tyros from it's inception.

I've done several clinics on the Tyros5-76 and got to know it pretty darn good.

The upgrades on the Tyros5 effects weren't significant enough for me to change from my Tyros4...the audio based styles are crippled too much in regards to programming, so they were nice, but essentially useless to me as I do a lot of style programming. My Tyros4 sounds as good as it does because I took the time to dig into its effects and sounds...yes, the T5 has more SA/Sa2 voices but, again, most of the new ones were simply different versions of the old...a few wiggles with effects, filter ADSR and I'm pretty close.

I am very glad that the Tyros5 appeals to you....but, also, remember there are many Tyros3 and Tyros4 users out there getting less than 50% out of their arranger, and all the Ensemble sections on earth won't make their Tyros4's sound better unless they learn how to use such features properly.

I've done a side by side comparison of my Tyros4 (with all my tweaks) to my friend's Tyros5-76 and, except for the new features I don't have, like Ensemble, we both agreed that my Tyros4 sounds better...in fact, I'm in the process of working on his T5 to give it similar enhancements.

In my experience, very few Tyros users knew very much about the effects (DSP) section, and never tweaked anything...they just used what was set for each sound, and that was it. An effects section is designed for tweaking. I think the one in the Tyros5 is graphically laid out better (and even easier to tweak), and slightly more powerful (than my T4's) but I can only imagine how few will even benefit from the T5's upgrades.

I'm sure someone like yourself will know enough to benefit, but in my experience, you are the exception to the rule.

I think you made a great choice getting the Tyros5...it's one of the very best arrangers being made today, but, don't underestimate or undervalue the power of previous Tyros instruments.

Being dedicated to music all my life, I buy what is best for my needs, and if Tyros5 would've been a huge or worthy upgrade for me, I'd have got one, especially since retirement has put me in a better financial situation....but, after spending a lot of time on one, I realized it wasn't...maybe the Tyros6 will do the trick?

Also, many Tyros4 users upgraded to Tyros5 purely because of the 76-note keyboard.

I agree...editing is rather limiting, but, Tyros is still superb as a "player's" instrument.

And, if I haven't already, congratulations on your new Tyros5. You are in for a lot of fun.

Ian