that's what i was referring to. most keyboard demos are of the player.my term "down to earth demo" might be off. this was just a button pushing demo, "this is what a rock and roll syle sounds like" etc. so what you hear is the keyboard on it's on as opposed to(for example) marco parisi on the korg pa900 . kris has alot of demos of various keyboards. he even has one on the old korg i5m. he sure goes thru alot of keyboards. now that i used my 24 hour waiting period i'm not so sure about buying one. i'm in no hurry.