There you go Rico, just don't try to emulate something that cannot be emulated, the fountain of knowledge has spoken, unless you can half-valved lip, need a few bottles of the hard stuff, you must hand it to SZ you learn something new every day, not that it would be of any use to you as my old mum would say god bless her soul " just another useless piece of information, I don't need" still Rico see if it sounds better on the Tyros4, Diki might be blagging it with all this half-valved and lipped stuff???