Yep, they probably are. That's because I'm old, opinionated, and very much a traditionalist......but not to the point of resisting the advances of technology. But music isn't science or technology, it's ART. Well probably a blend of both at this stage. I tend to lean in the direction of art. Let me be clear about this; I really love my arrangers (well, the PA1x pro anyway, the Tyros 2, not so much ). Everything you said in your post is of course, true, and the lines between workstation and arranger are certainly blurring. However, I think there is a distinct difference between an arpeggiator and a style player. One assists you, the other plays it for you. Well, it's more complicated than that but you know what I mean. I have nothing against arrangers OR arranger players (other than what Scott originally cited). I guess I have a small problem when they're used to deceive or misrepresent or, more importantly, be used to allow one (especially kids) to bypass the process of learning a 'real' instrument (one without auto-accompaniment). One does not start out flying a fighter jet or driving a formula one car. Learning the basics are important, in my book.

Hey look. Don't say "I'm an arranger player and proud of it". That sounds defensive. How about "I'm a MUSICIAN and proud of it". Sounds healthier .

Peace,

chas

PS: I still admire your work with those adorable kids. After a couple of hours with my grandkids, the only thing I want to do with kids is strangle them .