John do you still have the ketron, or was it the keyboard players???. I play guitar and use either the xd3 or the midjay. I got enough types of patters and voices on either machine that I could never want any more for my backup.I kick pedals and play and sing and I sound like a 5 piece band.I dont write any thing, I have all I need in the xd3 or midjay....Joe Lee