My final thoughts were the same as many other reviewers..I just took a look on the net...
The Sam Ash guy did the play controls..he was reluctant to show me the bass or lack of bass..but I made him..

They are very loud, but typical D class sound...I thought the sound was not warm ..but harsh...Yorkville's they are not..

They are designed to use with their sub woofer...

I also read that there is a conflict with the K12's and the sub woofer ..overlapping bass frequency...I would think they have a roll off button..like Yorkville...but apparently not..

Dave is use to not hearing "real" bass...so maybe he feels it adequate...like his Bose..