John great topic, but as we all know the only thing that matters is the "FINAL" product when you listen to the music...there is no way around what it sounds like in the end result. How someone gets there is a life long process and even then if you don't have it inside you you might not ever achieve it...not everyone can be a good musician as with any profession...some are suited for certain people some are not. We are all human and have different abilities. The tools we use are secondary.....hoping to hear more discussion about this.

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