Strange how some can criticize or comment on OTHER arrangers, and think that is their right to post their opinion, but when faced with criticism of their own choice, start to fall back on the tired 'beauty is in the eye of the beholder' defense. Which basically negates any opinion THEY have about anything, too!

And yes, I apologize, Tony. I lumped you in with Gunnar, who didn't even BOTHER to post anything about Fred at all. I missed your earlier comment by concentrating on the posts AFTER my comment. But even so, neither of you made any reference to 'insensitivity' towards Fred, you both simply made the common ('boilerplate' is used for whole sections of text that get repeated all the time - it's a printing and legal phrase) defense of 'well, it's good enough for me, have you even HEARD a Technics?', yada yada yada that so often gets put up here.

Let's be honest, here. If Technics came back into business, and brought out something with sounds that rival a MODERN arranger, are you telling me you WOULDN'T fall over yourselves rushing to buy it? And my comments were not anything to do with the EQ curve. I know a bad recording can destroy the fullness of ANY arranger, but it can't disguise sounds with no dynamics, or drumkits with single velocity sounds, playing back parts with dynamics on them...

I know you both love your Technics. I would LOVE to have some bigband styles on my Roland as good as you have on your arrangers. But I'm convinced I wouldn't want those styles if the cost was sounds as dated as they were played on. Sorry, but that's just the way I feel... Beauty is NOT in the eye of this beholder!