I've been playing guitar for about 18 years. i have 3 nice electrics, and now I'm looking for 1 really nice acoustic. I was planning on about $2,000. I'm a very serious guitarist. But, if I can find a sweet guitar for cheaper, I'll buy it. I am not the kind of guy who spends mucho dollar just to show off what an expensive instrument I've got, but I do need serious quality stuff. I'll probably buy a cheaper one as well for on stage anyway, because I'm not bringing a $2000 guitar to a live gig. So, the guitars you mentioned I'll surely look into as well. I'm not really in the loop when it comes to acoustics, but I'll know what I need when I hear it.