I have quite a few patches I have made for with the techno card.....I agree that some of the patches are not that useable however the drum sounds are excellent and when you come to making your own kits you can just about get any drum sound out of it that you want!!!!!

Some of the patches you'll find only need different fx running through them or change the structure of the sound to make some good sounds. Many of the sounds r too thick in a mix so layers need to be taken off for each soiund to fit well