I've never said it won't work for others... Every arranger on the market out there works for SOMEBODY.

It just doesn't work for me. Or, I imagine, anyone that relies upon tweaking tools to extensively edit just about everything they do. My approach is simply to pick what 'sounds' best in the basic areas (drums, piano, organ, meat and potato stuff) and then, if it isn't GREAT OOTB, tweak it until it is. Hence, the ease and speed of the tweaking tools are one of my primary considerations.

Others, many others from what I gathered from my 'What percentage of ROM styles do you use?' thread, don't bother with this step, use what an arranger provides basically as is as long as it suits their style, and would be quite content with Ketron's lack of ease in this area. And good for them... it takes all kinds.

And sorry, mc, but I don't need to play something to know, from reading the manual and listening to others' posts, when certain OS issues are going to be a dealbreaker. I buy an arranger for what it does NOW, not what MIGHT be added at some indeterminate time in the future, at an inderterminate level of ease and simplicity. Perhaps, after Ketron address all these issues, come out with some onboard software (I hate using a PC to do this stuff, especially as I run a Mac and these editing softwares rarely come in a Mac compatible form) that is as easy to use as Roland's Makeup and Cover Tools, and their Style Composer, the Audya, at it's hugely inflated price, MIGHT be more attractive.

But a good OOTB sound alone isn't my primary need... I don't do Latin, Portuguese, African or any of the other styles that Ketron excel at. So it's ROM styles are going to be a small percentage of what I would need. Hence, it's editing tools are my main priority. For $1500 MORE than I payed for my brand new G70, I expect $1500 MORE stuff and features, not $1500 MORE, and $1500 LESS as well...

Trust me guys... anyone that says that Ketron have good editing tools simply has not TRIED these on a Roland.