Originally posted by Diki:
Does anyone even CARE that the original poster actually LIKES the arps in WS's, and finds that they get his 'creative juices' flowing...?
To be honest, if these get you inspired, you are NOT going to get the same from an arranger. Chalk and cheese. Different strokes. All that jazz...
I only WISH there was an arranger that the styles sounded even remotely as creative as most WS's loops are. But face it, guys. Arrangers aren't meant to INSPIRE you (unless you're a MOR freak 
), they are meant to help you play songs, gig, all that. But try to be CREATIVE on them, and you quickly hit the wall of mediocrity that the styles have...
Don't get me wrong, mediocrity has it's uses. But if you are trying to do ORIGINAL, fresh music, styles aren't really designed to do that. They are generally designed to help you perform music in styles that have ALREADY become popular. WS's OTOH, really ARE designed to try to help you make ORIGINAL music.
Sure, if the manufacturers pulled their bloody fingers out their bloody a$$es, there's no reason why an arranger couldn't do all that... But without the CONTENT (sounds AND styles) designed for that task, it's an uphill battle.
Arrangers are VERY good at doing quick mock-ups of songs, of trying out chord progressions in established genres, and just giving you a quick 'instant fix' of full band accompaniment to try an idea out. But the more original and fresh you want your music to sound, the worse they work as a writer's tool, IMO.
Kingfrog will now disagree with everything I just said... 
No I agree.. He should get a workstation. I said as much. Especially if he wants a contemporary sound. I have not heard a song lately that I think will be requested at a party 20 years from now. Unless the "performer" is a DJ.
I could say "it's all been done" but Im 54 years old.........My influences are the same age and older. So in my case using Arrangers for writing is a good thing. Not to mention I am not looking for a "deal" nor would I attempt to write a loop based hip hop. Us old dudes are in good company, Music like that from Diana Krall, Michael Buble, and a whole list of other far more geriatric acts are still relevant.
I prefer "familiar" with interesting melody and lyric,Some would call that Mediocre. 12 bar blues will always be 12 bar blues.
I call playing the same old songs night after night the ultimate in mediocrity. My own wife would differ,but thats her joy. Can't argue with someones passion no matter what it is or the result,
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