Ian.....good points Im just saying that for example for me as a Singer Player...the Yamaha VH is useless, so I now use an outboard TC VH unit.....I use a Tyros for the tilt display screen and good sounds without the SA technology...and I make it all sound wonderful night after night. I'll admit I've thought long and hard about the T3 money not in the equation, but when I add up the plus & minuses.....my needs are just not there to substantiate buying one.....especially when I know in a year or so there will be more units on their way to market that seem to be more on track with my Gigging needs...Although Yamaha TOTL units sound very good....Korg & Roland & Ketron seem to address the pro player's feature & navigational needs on stage a bit more.