THIS is where the thread went south. Go re-read it. There wasn't ANY arranger-bashing, or mention of it up to that point. Unless you consider being informed that there ARE some musical things you CAN'T do on an arranger 'bashing'. You don't really feel THAT defensive, do you?

There are things you can do on an arranger that a WS can't do... Are YOU 'bashing' workstations? Or are you just pointing out differences in workflow and techniques?

If you are not 'bashing' them, why do you assume that everyone is 'bashing' you? Talk about a thin skin!

Or is this just spilling over from other threads, where the only documented 'arranger bashing' is the tirade by Simon Cowell of all people. As if anyone cares, for a starter. He's the one who thinks Clay Aiken was 'talented', for Pete's sake! But take that awful 'Star Wars' clip into consideration, and you can see he has a point...!

OF COURSE, you aren't who he is talking about, are you? But have you watched the clip? Remind you of anyone you ever heard? Sure it did... Let's face it folks. An arranger, in fact the exact same arranger, can simultaneously be either a 'pro' instrument, a 'home' keyboard, or a 'toy' for a non-musician to muck around with. It all depends on who is sitting at the bench.

And just because this forum is populated by primarily the first two, that doesn't mean a LOT of the third type don't exist. And THOSE are the kind of players that Simon (so far, the only person that anyone has actually QUOTED 'bashing' arrangers) is railing about, and to be honest (let's try a little of that rather than knee-jerk outrage ), haven't YOU felt the same way on occasion, when you hear someone truly awful play the arranger?

Or is it ALL music to your ears, no critical faculties whatsoever, if it is simply being played on your personal favorite instrument? Me, I don't care what it is played on. If it bad, I don't care if it's a piano, a WS or an arranger. It's JUST PLAIN BAD.

The trouble is, it's easier to be bad on an arranger, and still have the semblance of music, at least enough to fool yourself. But the impressions of Simon, and apparently all these legions of arranger 'bashers' that mysteriously, I have never heard from (that DonM wishes would go away - hard to make something go away you can't hardly find!), sure didn't come from NOWHERE...

Where do YOU think they got this impression? Come on, I want to hear this one... What makes them think this way in the first place?

Or are they ALL secret WS players, who are mad at all the WS 'bashing' they hear over here?!