Sorry if I offended you Bill.
I wrote mp3 in google search and I got tons of hits, amongst them a review of players in PC-magazines: http://www.pcmag.com/category2/0,1874,2359,00.asp
Also, i agree wholeheartedly with Donny with regards to lap tops. Although a little bit bigger than most mp3 players, you can do so much more with certain software programmes.

Again my apologies.