Originally posted by cgiles:
Boo, you've been brave enough to say what a lot of us have been thinking for a long time. And it's not just the bad chords, it's the generally AWFUL playing as well.
Have you ever met someone that was really dumb but didn't realize they were dumb? What we are hearing is the musical equivalent. Since I've been on the board, I have heard two, maybe three, instances of professional-level playing (and singing). Of course, the number of self-proclaimed "professionals" far exceed that number.
In your mind, you want to be helpful and encouraging, but in your heart you want to say "sir, put up your hands and back slowly away from the keyboard". 'cause we know that all the practice in the world is no substitute for talent. You just cannot make a silk purse......... no matter what equipment you choose.
If you really love music that much, buy an iPod and become a GREAT listener or even get a nice arranger keyboard, but for heavens sake, keep it at home and (more importantly) stop posting your productions on a site populated by musicians.
The problem is, most of these so-called "professionals" are actually a lot smarter, more articulate, and have better equipment, than their real-musician counterparts. As a result, they get the lion's share of the few available gigs. This, in turn, allows them to avoid having to work a day job, thereby allowing them more time to post musical dreck (see how that works).
Has anyone ever stopped to listen to the drum parts of nearly all of the recent arranger KB offerings? That alone is enough to strip it of any musical value.
So in closing let me say, it's fine to post a tune from time to time but not until you learn to play (or at least learn the changes) and not until someone other than your immediate family tells you that you sound good (and not telling you in sign language).
chas
That is what I was subtlely trying to get at in this thread.
http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/Forum37/HTML/013932.html But it seems as if some people think that if you are playing an arranger, displaying your arranger work has to be substandard and musically and sonically not up to par.
Then some of those people they wonder why arrangers generally do not get much respect in the keyboard world.
When you tell some arranger players any thing that is not done well on an arranger, you often hear some of them say: ------O it is just an arranger if you want better or more professional get a workstation-------.
Whether an arranger or workstation, there is no substitute for good musician skills and a good recording.
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