Oh, and Al (kbrkr), you didn't offend me in the least. Sadly, yours was one of the few posts that actually explained how you felt, and why...... we need more like this and less like (well, you know who they are....!), and we might get this forum off the Lebanon model......

I also hope you weren't offended by my refutation........ All I did was try to address your points and stay respectful, and I can only hope that more members can see that that is what the thread needed.

Enough with the cartoons and pictures of poo..........! Let's return to being adults.