thanks, Donny, looks like a winner..will have to check if lifting 57 lbs + weight of small wheeled carrier I would strap it to, up and down from my Endeavor is too much of a strain or not..I have had 3 hernias over the years and am subject to back spasms. also i see price is around $769 at discounters..for that $ i'd want to try one out first..so i'll have to hunt where i may be able to do that here in nw ct thru oct or in miami vic after nov 1.....MO