hi george,thanks for your reply,i,m glad that you took your time to reply,as it gave a good fairly indepth unbias view,which was beneficial to us ,(part of the purchasing pulic),and also the manufacturers,and you did it without treading on anyones toes,hopefully there are manufacturers out there who will have the opportunities to improve their ratings by either,1,a later OS update ,2, make some internal improvements,or 3, reduce their prices,one or more of these changes would certainly make a big differences in their ratings,and hopefully the next arrival of new boards will certainly show this,KETRON,GENERAL MUSIC and KORG ,are already in the process of making some of these changes.our views on keyboards are biased because we compare to what we have and know ,also its difficult for us to try out a new board for an hour or two to make an excellent judgement,whereas your views and experience is highly valued,and appreciated on this site,,,,,,,also it was nice to hear your imput scottyee ,that your opinions were also the same,mike