The Tyros has some excellent sounds already built in, ( I finally spent a couple of hours with it ), but as far as editing goes, I haven't seen anything yet that indicates that it is any more capable than the previous Yamaha arranger models even with the software, and yes you can save the edits as referred to above in a midi file via sysex. In previous Yamaha arranger models, you could do the sysex edits but could not permanently store the voices that are edited in this manner internally in the board for replay or live play without accessing a midifile or being hooked up to the external software ( not good for road work to be certain..) Does anyone know if this is different in the Tyros ?

Based on the specs I see, I envision the editing software as having similar capabilties to what is available via XG editing software .. Good editing to be sure, but not of the level of Triton or other workstation / synth editing capabilities. Also .. is there access to the raw samples ? In other words, the question would be .. can I access each individual element of lets say one of the megavoices.. so that I could modify the level or velocity span of the picking sound without changing the acosutic guitar sample ? Can these edits be stoed permanently as a user voice ?

You can do a lot of cool editing with Yamaha arrangers.. no doubt, but I wouldn't expect Triton / Motif type voice editing capabilities unless Yamaha has radically changed the approach from previous models.

The PA80 is the closest thing out there in terms of matching the Triton / other workstations for voice editing capability. In fact the edit engine is basically the same between the Triton / PA80. You are alloted full access to the raw samples. The PA80 shares the "Triton" sample engine as well, minus some effects. Of course it does not have arpeggio capability and sampling is somewhat primitive ( for starters you'll need an external Korg formatted Smart media card ), but still it allows better voice editing than any other arranger I've tried ( Rolands, Yamaha's GEM's etc )

The MZ2000 was the second best at voice editing of any arranger that I've tried ( I actually owned one for about 6 months ) . It allows access to its' raw samples, is generally excellent in voice editing capability, and it has some cool voices inside. Unfortunately it has some poor styles and other issues going against it that would prohibit me from recommending it at all.


AJ