well said, tom. and i was wondering about the duplicates. anyway, i have a close friend who plays totally by ear, and he wont go near a piece of music, but he does know a little theory. hes very big into harmony, and he plays quite well. but if anything, i, who plays almost totally using sheets, have more feeling when i play than he does. so i dont think that the whole feel thing is limited to ear people. i think it simply depends on the person. Zack