I fully agree. Seems like half of the topics here aren't about arrangers anymore.

There isn't much happening in arrangers lately anyway, and I was very disturbed by Yamaha's draconian approach of asking independent forums to remove the pix of the Tyros II that were leaked out. I seems that even if something juicy comes along to see and talk about in arrangers, it'll be removed. I feel like our hands were slapped. Plus the guy who was claiming to have the inside track on Yamaha's new stuff, "tigerfool", has also disappeared.

It was Nigel's call and I respect that, and other forums also cooperated with Yamaha's call to remove the Tyros II pix, but I'd like to have seen someone stand up to Yamaha on the basis of free speech - if they let a prototype keyboard out for use at a performance (as the pix appeared) then we should have every right to post pictures and discuss it. It's not like the pictures were taken inside of their secret corporate test labs or something. What good is an open forum if manufacturers can effectively censor it?

Well it could be worse - the discussions on Yamaha's own ArrangerWorkstation.com are pitiful. But this incident sure put a damper on my enthusiasm for talking about new arrangers and the Tyros II in particular.