Eric: I too am sorry to hear the Ventura jam didn't work out. As I mentioned to you by phone, the reason I couldn't make it is because of the date: a MAJOR summer holiday weekend, of which I (and I know many others here as well) already have booked. I hope there might be an opportunity again (next year?) for a Ventura jam. It would help (wishful thinking on part I suppose) if gas prices dropped as well. - Scott