WHAT???? I'll have to check that ref on the ESI -4000 turbo.. I haven't seen an ESI 4000 w/scsi for less than $1050... are you talking used or what??? I'd rather have an ESI 32 with 32mb or ram than a ESI 4000 w/4mb of ram.. But the ESI 4000 is alot better.. hmmmm interesting...