Originally posted by Uncle Dave:
Why do I get the feeling that we can't disagree without that feeling of attack?
Attack? Just WHERE was I attacking YOU? No attacks. I was only responding to your statments, clarifying my point of view in a typical 'forum like' approach.
Originally posted by Uncle Dave:
I am merely stating a point of view that may just apply to many others.
If you yourself play in 'full keyboard' mode and Yamaha's 'full keyboard mode' chord recognition is working well for you, then you definitely have a valid point. But to challenge my point of view based ONLY on conjecture that it "may just apply to many others" is blindly accepting something which could in fact be a chord recognition problem that Yamaha could improve on. Bug or not, at least Yamaha should be made aware of it, and then make their decision after viewing the evidence.
Originally posted by Uncle Dave:
I was playing full time while you were still in the sand box.
Talking about feeling attacked.
Hey, didn't you know I began gigging (with a portable casio) 'in the sandbox'?
Originally posted by Uncle Dave:
the issue is this:The chord recognition on the yamaha was set up to follow the chords in a particular fashion. It works quite well for many two handed styles, and just because it's not following the Technics method - it's not a bug
It's beginning to sound like you're on Yamaha's payroll now. I agree that some two handed playing styles work on the PSRs when playing in 'split mode', but topic is specifically about 'full keyboard' mode two handed playing.
Originally posted by Uncle Dave:
C'mon Scotty, let's try to not argue so much.
Arguing? I was just defending & clarifying MY position.
Originally posted by Uncle Dave:
My two handed technique has paid the bills for a long time before arrangers were even invented, so let's not go there, k?
I'm sure your two handed playing technique is great. I never said it wasn't. When I said "I suspect you may not understand because you don't come from a background as a keyboard piano player, but instead a bass player, and that you primarily play the arranger in 'one finger' mode", this was NOT meant an attack on your playing proficiency or musicianship. I was merely trying to figure out WHY you couldn't understand my position about 'full keyboard mode' playing. I'm sure you're an accomplished two handed player, but it was you yourself that said that you play two handed in 'split' mode, NOT 'full keyboard' mode.
I initiated this thread to bring up what I believe are a few problems in the way Yamaha chose to recognize a few chords in'full keyboard' mode and this whole thing somehow turned into me having to defend myself. I really don't think the disagreement is about the issue at hand (full keyboard mode chord recognition), but something else: that Uncle Dave & I just can't get along, no matter how hard we BOTH try.
Originally posted by
Frank L. Rosenthal:
Economics 101 will very quickly tell you that the target market is not people like you. It is overwhelmingly the residential market. The residential market would not beable to tell the difference on any of the issues you are raving about.
Well, if that's the case, then we should go back to those toy casio keyboards of yester year, because the residential market seemed to be pleased with them then. The point is that our aim should be to 'encourage' the keyboard manufacters to improve their product. Arrangers have come a long way, but there is always room for improvement. I don't think I was shouting. I had just posted this thread in hopes that Yamaha would at least take at look at the issue.
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