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Originally posted by The Pro:

And I know we have a lot of "internal speaker" fans here, but the truth is that your very arguments, such as Mike's about "not being able to turn up the Master Volume without affecting the Sound System" only shows why internal speakers on a keyboard are a limited-use-only option. A true, separate stage monitor system would allow you to change any aspect of your monitoring while sending an unchanged signal to the main mixer/sound system.

The only place internal speakers serve adequately even only for stage monitoring is low-volume solo gigs. What's the most powerful internal speakers system made now in an arranger? 40 watts? (2 x 20 stereo). Most aren't even that powerful - regular car stereos are often better as are most ghetto blasters. That would be a waste of money and unnecessary cartage on any keyboard for people like myself. The Tyros has the best approach: make external powered speakers optional. Korg's new PA1-X and PA1-X Pro also have the right idea: make a small 61-note version with internal speakers for those desiring such and a 76-note pro version without it.


Your first paragraph about me being able to turn up "my" volume without affecting the Main Mix through the system CAN be accomplished Jim, but I haven't taken that approach yet. The solution would be in using my 'Aux Outputs' and run them to the "Snake" which in turn runs to the "MainBoard" and out the the "System". That way I could use my Master Volume to turn me up without affecting the Main Mix. It would then be the sound man's job to regulate my volume in the Mix which is his job anyway. My main point is not me turning up or down the volume whether it be through my Master Volume or if I use the Aux Outs, for the sound man to do it. My point is having those onboard speakers in front of you, looking up at you and PROVIDING you (ME) with a "personal" Monitoring system can only be plus to in my view. With the Tyros I wouldn't have that ability unless I take the extra effort it requires to keep setting up those add ons and breaking them down and all the while looking ugly plastered to the rear of the Tyros's shell while I'm performing. No thanks... Also with the Tyros I wouldn't have the capability to use any Aux Outputs, because the Tyros DOESN'T have ANY. So much for High End Arranger feature advances. At least on the Tyros anyway. Thanks for your reply Jim, for it just now got me to thinking about using my Aux Outputs for the Main System Mix and then I could independently use my Master Volume to turn ME up without affecting anything else. Now all I have to do is go to GC and get the right Cabling wire and adapter to make it work.

I will also give you my evaluation of your second paragraph. First off, even if onboard speakers are only 20Wx2 that sure beats a kick in the pants doesn't it? Or 'nothing' at all as I'm trying to say. And also show me an Arranger Keyboard that has internal speakers costing MORE than one that DOESN'T have onboard speakers and I'll eat my hat. Whether it be a 61 Key Arranger or a 76 Key one. Also my PSR 2000, which has onboard speakers and 61 Keys, actually weighs LESS than the 61 Key Tyros which DOESN'T have onboard speakers. And just because the best speakers on the market for an Arranger are 20Wx2 (actually the Technics KN7000 has 66 Total Watts of power) does that negate the fact that they serve a valuable purpose? And the Manufacturers will only increase the Output Power of the speakers in their future Arranger products IMO. Just think, maybe in 5 years we will see a High End Arranger that has "76" Keys, with onboard speakers producing an incredible 150Wx2 Output Power Rating "BEFORE" taking into account the 60W of Bass Output, and all the while the the Arranger weighing in at "under" 40 lbs. Could it be possible you say? Not only could it be possible imo it could very well be a strong probability within 5 years.

Ouch! I just looked at the clock. Gotta Run!


Best regards,
Mike