Thanks I will reinvestigate but to date I am sure there isd such a gap between pianos in arrangers generally and a real piano (electric) that I have given up the search. I await more progress. sometimes I used x1 to drive Corg sgid piano and sound improved significally at home but on the gig its not near as good as corg sgid. I tried corg to drive x1 and it is no good either. I am sold on the big -backbreaking piano. When did new piano sounds become available from ketron as I loaded all they had about a year ago and I loaded v4 of update but there is nothing anwhere near what I use-- pity Pierce