Al: Sorry, I haven't played a P250 so I can't compare. To my ears the Mo Full Grand sounds very much like the stock piano on my 9000 Pro, which some people liked but I didn't. I played around a lot more with the Mo this evening and I still don't like it's stock acoustic piano, but I've reasoned that Yamaha probably doesn't want to eliminate it's own market for the PLG150-PF expansion card. I do like the PF card quite a bit and don't want to remove the one I have from my 9kPro so I'll probably buy a second for the Mo (sigh).
Originally posted by sk880user:
The Pro,
I have several questions to ask:
1) If one does not tweak any sound but uses only factory sounds, what advantage does Motif ES (other than the keyboard feel) over Tyros? I am selecting Tyros here for comparison because they share the sounds.
I've never played a Tyros but there are some things I can compare. First and foremost, the Tyros is a true arranger and would be a much easier to operate and make music with quickly. It's meant for live performance. The Motif ES is an in-depth workstation that you really build songs around and seem more studio-oriented. Also the Mo has some deep integrated sampling/sequencing features that allows you to slice up samples and change their tempo/sync them to drum beats without changing pitch. The Tyros has no sampling capacity and even my 9000 Pro's sampling ability is basic compared to the Mo.
2) Does the phraze factory functionality offer anything that an arranger (say Tyros) will not be able to do so?
Yes... Mo comes with a huge database of arpeggios (over 1700) that you can switch between five of instantly via the front panel buttons. That's a lot of variations. The Tyros, like most arrangers, offers more song-oriented styles that include intro, verse, chorus, fill-to, ending etc. making it pretty simple to know what you're doing even if you've never played the pattenr before. With the Mo you gotta know what you're doing in advance because the arp butons are only named arp1, arp2, arp 3 etc. So again, the Motif is meant for in-depth working and the Tyros is less demanding.
3) You already own PSR9Kpro. Do you see an advantage in sounds?
YES. No comparison between the Mo and the 9000 Pro on most everything. Cellos and violins are quite realistic. The Mo's rock guitars would fool me in a recording. Of course the Megavoices blow away the 9000 Pro. More than quality, the sound of the Mo is big and spread out so it's a leap forward sonically over the 9000 Pro. I think the 9000 Pro will still earn it's living as my main stage instrument for some time to come but the Mo really fills my studio needs.
4) What are any distinctive features for this keyboard that is not in Tyros?
Oh boy... too much to list easily. They are still two different beasts really. Bottom line: the Tyros is more live-performance oriented with many easy features and a vocal harmonizer. The Motif ES has no vocal harmonizer (it can be added via expansion card though) is a studio workstation with highly advanced features that will require some work to make the most of.
If you are seriously considering the Motif ES, I would recommend that you buy the "Complete Guide To The Yamaha Motif ES" video from
http://www.motifator.com. It takes you through the many functions of the Mo and is very good.