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FransN
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posted 11-19-2009 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FransN   Click Here to Email FransN     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fugtN0SU_Yo&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8X1aFLB8DE&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ07XqtGij4&feature=related

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Irishacts
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posted 11-19-2009 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Irishacts   Click Here to Email Irishacts     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Really enjoyed that.
Totally effortless excellence in playing.

Just have one complaint.... the KORG logo on this T-Shirt is not the official Font. Ohhh the little things us KORG users have to worry about lol....!!!!

Regards
James

PS: Love the part when he presses the fill-in with his nose. Effortless excellence.

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FransN
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posted 11-19-2009 06:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FransN   Click Here to Email FransN     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Yes and only for 200 Euro you can buy the USB Muzikant and stick it in your PA 800 or PA2x and you have 2 keyboards. Yes Korg is a winner.

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Tony Hughes
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posted 11-19-2009 11:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tony Hughes   Click Here to Email Tony Hughes     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by FransN:
Yes and only for 200 Euro you can buy the USB Muzikant and stick it in your PA 800 or PA2x and you have 2 keyboards. Yes Korg is a winner.

Excellent and it don't lock uppppppppppp!

Mary

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Tony Hughes
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posted 11-20-2009 07:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tony Hughes   Click Here to Email Tony Hughes     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by FransN:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fugtN0SU_Yo&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8X1aFLB8DE&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ07XqtGij4&feature=related

Brillant and this only a PA500 I think this is better that Audya look at the price difference Korg £900 Audya £4200.00

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Tony Hughes
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posted 11-20-2009 08:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tony Hughes   Click Here to Email Tony Hughes     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by FransN:
Yes and only for 200 Euro you can buy the USB Muzikant and stick it in your PA 800 or PA2x and you have 2 keyboards. Yes Korg is a winner.

Fran

can you get this in the uk

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Gunnar Jonny
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posted 11-20-2009 09:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gunnar Jonny     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Nice!

I really like this way to demo, humorisic and fun, as well as
good playing.
If I go for a PA2X Pro, I got to have that USB stick as well....

Cheers
GJ

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Tony Hughes
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posted 11-20-2009 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tony Hughes   Click Here to Email Tony Hughes     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gunnar Jonny:
Nice!

I really like this way to demo, humorisic and fun, as well as
good playing.
If I go for a PA2X Pro, I got to have that USB stick as well....

Cheers
GJ


Jonny come on how do you rate that cheap Korg to the Audya, no contest it's far better than Audya. And what a demoist, German and all that hey!

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ianmcnll
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posted 11-20-2009 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ianmcnll   Click Here to Email ianmcnll     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
That was super Frans...the guy is an excellent demonstrator, and that PA-500 is astonishing.

Definitely one of the better "bang for the buck" keyboards out there.

Ian

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Tony Hughes
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posted 11-20-2009 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tony Hughes   Click Here to Email Tony Hughes     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ianmcnll:
That was super Frans...the guy is an excellent demonstrator, and that PA-500 is astonishing.

Definitely one of the better "bang for the buck" keyboards out there.

Ian


Ian,

I totally agree with you, one of the best demos I have seen for a long time and when he picks the KB up and plays it like an accordion that’s amazing, that USB stick every Korg owner should have one, the 500 sounds better than the Audya or my ears have gone walkabout! Beat that Ketron with you OS4 and £4200.00.

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Tony Hughes
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posted 11-20-2009 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tony Hughes   Click Here to Email Tony Hughes     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gunnar Jonny:
Nice!

I really like this way to demo, humorisic and fun, as well as
good playing.
If I go for a PA2X Pro, I got to have that USB stick as well....

Cheers


GJ



Jonny what do you mean IF you go for the PA2X - you would be mad to buy anything else

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spalding
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posted 11-20-2009 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spalding   Click Here to Email spalding     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
then my ears have gone walkabout. I guess you have to take into account the sound systems the instrument is played through but although the demonstrator was terrific and Ketron would do well to consider who they use to demonstrate the Audya, this demo did not sound better than the Audya demos i have heard. I am talking about actual sounds. Something isnt quite right because the pianos sounded toyish and the guitars sounded like GM guitars. I own the PA1X and i know for a fact my PAx sounds better that this without any doubt in my mind. I am playing the old PA1X demos right now on the same computer speakers and the difference is night and day

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Gunnar Jonny
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posted 11-20-2009 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gunnar Jonny     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tony Hughes:

Jonny what do you mean IF you go for the PA2X - you would be mad to buy anything else


To be honest, I've been tempted to go for PA2X Pro for some time, but my experience with the SD1
made me believe in that Audya would be the right thing for me.
The only matters that made me hold back to buy (as I said so many times now), are the pricelevel
they put Audya into in this country compared to rest of the world.

So, now I'm just lurking at the fence to see what happening. Does Audya grow up from the stage of
"children's disease", does Korg or maybe Roland release a high end followup in the near future,
or (as some people whisper about), will Casio give us a big surprice by put a new high end model
who really sets a new arranger keyboard standard into the market?

Exciting times, in the meantime I'll try keep the dust off of the G-70. Just pushing the power on
button, select some styles and sounds and play it as it is. No deep diving into things that need
lots of brain activity, just play, relax and enjoy the moments.

Cheers
GJ

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FransN
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posted 11-20-2009 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FransN   Click Here to Email FransN     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tony Hughes:
Fran

can you get this in the uk


Wow what an enthusiasm.
Yes Tony you can buy the usb stick online for example here http://www.musik-produktiv.de/korg-musikant-usb-stick.aspx

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FransN
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posted 11-20-2009 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FransN   Click Here to Email FransN     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by spalding:
then my ears have gone walkabout. I guess you have to take into account the sound systems the instrument is played through but although the demonstrator was terrific and Ketron would do well to consider who they use to demonstrate the Audya, this demo did not sound better than the Audya demos i have heard. I am talking about actual sounds. Something isnt quite right because the pianos sounded toyish and the guitars sounded like GM guitars. I own the PA1X and i know for a fact my PAx sounds better that this without any doubt in my mind. I am playing the old PA1X demos right now on the same computer speakers and the difference is night and day

Don't forget you listen to a youtube video.
And the PA500 is 3500 Euro cheaper here in the Netherlands then the Audya.

[This message has been edited by FransN (edited 11-20-2009).]

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Tony Hughes
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posted 11-20-2009 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tony Hughes   Click Here to Email Tony Hughes     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by spalding:
[Balthough the demonstrator was terrific and Ketron would do well to consider who they use to demonstrate the Audya[/B]

Glad you spotted that about the demonstrator as well or I would be accused of being totally bias. But when I say I think that demo of the 500 was better the my Audya, I am listening to the demo through PC speakers and I am play the Audya through a brand new set of SR 500, so come on is that a fair test for the KORG, if the 500 sounded better through PC speakers than my Audya through a set of SR then I am lost for words.

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Lucky2Bhere
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posted 11-21-2009 09:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucky2Bhere     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ07XqtGij4
KORG TV / PA500 Musikant mit Jürgen Sartorius / Teil 3

Now demos like this is what sells keyboards!

I liked those beats on the following songs:

Jailhouse Rock
Satisfaction
The Walk of Life
Bad Moon Rising

Are these “stock” rhythms and are they the same in the PA2xPRO?

Also…..what is that box or book he has in his hands halfway through the video?

What does one do with the USB stick?

I have a feeling Korg is going to be the new kid on the block now, making up for all the time they lagged behind Roland in the early arranger days.

Lucky

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Gunnar Jonny
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posted 11-22-2009 12:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gunnar Jonny     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I think what he actually demoes is the Korg Musikant USB Stick by use of the PA500.
As far as I understand, it's also compatible to the other Korh PA's.


- Special Entertainer PCM-Multisamples
- New Entertainer Drum- und Percussionsamples
- New Entertainer Drumkits
- 320 Entertainerstyles
- 128 new Usersounds
- 82 new Pads und Padsequenzes
- More than 600 Songbook titles (My german is bad, so maybe it is Songbook setups)

Great consept, and not that heavy priced either if you look at what you get for te money.

Cheers
GJ

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CoasterTim
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posted 11-22-2009 02:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoasterTim   Click Here to Email CoasterTim     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Someone please explain the USB stick + the Pa500. The 500 uses SD for external memory - and that only for styles and songs, not voices. What am I missing here?

Tim

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Irishacts
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posted 11-22-2009 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Irishacts   Click Here to Email Irishacts     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CoasterTim:
Someone please explain the USB stick + the Pa500. The 500 uses SD for external memory - and that only for styles and songs, not voices. What am I missing here?

Tim


My guess is that it has something to do with copy protection. The only need for the memory stick is to likely supply the data in a format that makes it difficult to copy.

Regards
James

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FransN
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posted 11-22-2009 08:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FransN   Click Here to Email FransN     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CoasterTim:
Someone please explain the USB stick + the Pa500. The 500 uses SD for external memory - and that only for styles and songs, not voices. What am I missing here?

Tim


The demo is the PA500 Muzikant. This is the German version of the PA500. This version is also available on USB stick so you can use it on a PA800 and PA2X Pro. The PA500 international version don't have USB so you can't use it on the international PA500.
See http://www.korgpa.com/pa_root/en/products/pa500loc_info.html?en for all the special versions of the Korg PA500.

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ianmcnll
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posted 11-22-2009 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ianmcnll   Click Here to Email ianmcnll     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
So there is no North America/USA/Canada specific model...not enough Korg arrangers sold in this part of the world to warrant a special model?

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FransN
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posted 11-22-2009 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FransN   Click Here to Email FransN     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ianmcnll:
So there is no North America/USA/Canada specific model...not enough Korg arrangers sold in this part of the world to warrant a special model?

The PA500 is the North America/USA/Canada/Europe model

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ianmcnll
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posted 11-22-2009 09:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ianmcnll   Click Here to Email ianmcnll     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
So, you can't use the stick on it then?

That's a bit of an oversight, don't you think?

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Gunnar Jonny
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posted 11-22-2009 09:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gunnar Jonny     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Maybe there is adapters to find, or as easy as copy from USB stick into SD card?
GJ

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ianmcnll
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posted 11-22-2009 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ianmcnll   Click Here to Email ianmcnll     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Although, GJ, perhaps the idea of the stick was to protect the data from being shared.

If you can get it off the stick and into your PC (to put on your SD card), then it seems that there's no more control over where the data will go.

Maybe they'll offer a specific SD card for North American users?

Ian

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FransN
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posted 11-22-2009 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FransN   Click Here to Email FransN     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ianmcnll:
So, you can't use the stick on it then?

That's a bit of an oversight, don't you think?


Not really. The PA500 don't have a sample fuction and the Musikant Stick have samples you must load in the PA800 and/or PA2X Pro to make it compatible with the musikant. But if you buy the PA500 Musikant and the normal PA500 together its still cheaper then a PA800 .

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Lucky2Bhere
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posted 11-22-2009 09:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucky2Bhere     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lucky2Bhere:

Jailhouse Rock
Satisfaction
The Walk of Life
Bad Moon Rising

Are these “stock” rhythms and are they the same in the PA2xPRO?

Lucky


I read all the messages here and I'm MORE confused.

Are you saying that those styles (above) are on a USB stick that gets inserted into the American model PA2xPRO.

Also, how is the German PA2xPRO different from the American version?

Lucky

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Taike
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posted 11-23-2009 01:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taike     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lucky2Bhere:
I read all the messages here and I'm MORE confused.

Are you saying that those styles (above) are on a USB stick that gets inserted into the American model PA2xPRO.

Also, how is the German PA2xPRO different from the American version?

Lucky


I don't think there's a German PA2xPRO, Lucky.

Pa500 Musikant

Exclusively for Germany, Austria and Switzerland.

A keyboard built by entertainers for entertainers

The Pa500 Musikant is the ideal instrument for all the musicians of the German-speaking world, which preferably play entertainment, dance and folk music and place great emphasis on local sounds and rhythms! Developed by entertainers for entertainers, it offers everything you need for successful music-making. No matter whether you play for the most demanding audience, or simply at home for fun – the Musikant is the most reliable and best equipped key board of its class!

Flexible party guarantor

As a musician for different situations during ceremonies, celebrations or events, you have to offer always the right music. For this reason, you need a reliable keyboard with captivating sounds, that gives you the opportunity of covering different musical needs, while saving from time-intensive programming work, or having to buy additional expensive software. We do justice now to this heart desire! The Pa500 Musikant is the first and only keyboard equipped in one blow with all that music, which you need in this country for an ideal appearance. Whether you are in a wedding party, at a fair, at a birthday, at a meeting, in a club or in the middle of a luxury cruise, the Musikant offers you the full range of styles and national typical sounds.

He speaks German

For the first time in the history of entertainment keyboards, the style, sound and performance banks are labeled in German. For example, do you need a schlager? Simply press the “Schlager” style button, and you get the extensive selection of all schlager styles contained in the Pa500 Musikant. If you look for a particular akkordeon, select the “Akkordeon” sound button. But that’s not all: all the sounds, styles, songbook entries, performances, STS and pads are in German.

In addition there is a German-speaking, context-sensitive help system that makes the Pa500 Musikant very simple and clear to operate even for beginners. Curing even the smallest details was a basic concept while developing a keyboard dedicated to German-speaking musicians, something you will never want to miss again.

Oh...it's not blue but black.

Some demos to be found on the German site:
http://www.korg.de/nc/produkte/keyboards-produktbersicht/pa500m-produktinfo/pa500m-produktinfo-2.html

Taike

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Lucky2Bhere
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posted 11-23-2009 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucky2Bhere     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Thanks Taike,

I understand now what it is. I also called Korg today to inquire about it...they had no info on it.

So this keyboard looks exactly the same as the American version except for the color?

My main interest is the dance styles. They're different from the ones we get here? And I assume that's where Jailhouse Rock, etc came from....the basic styles in that Musikante?

The reason I'm so interested is that I have been both American and European trained. The PA2xPRO whets my appetite but much of it is too contemporary for me to spend that much money. I like what this Musikante is all about.

Lucky

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posted 11-23-2009 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucky2Bhere     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I just read through all these messages again. I'm at a disadvantage because I'm not familiar with the Korg machines. But I went here:
http://www.korgpa.com/pa_root/en/products/pa500loc_info.html?en

What I get this time is that these 500's are all physically exactly the same....with the same sound engine?

The Musikant has different dance styles than the American version?

This USB Musikant stick...
http://www.musik-produktiv.de/korg-musikant-usb-stick.aspx

...has all these different sounds/styles contained in it and plugs into the USB port on the PA2xPRO (but not on the 500)?

I mentioned I called Korg but they know nothing about it.....and, I might add, couldn't give two hoots anyway.

Lucky

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posted 11-23-2009 08:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for zuki   Click Here to Email zuki     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lucky2Bhere:
Thanks Taike,


The PA2xPRO whets my appetite but much of it is too contemporary for me to spend that much money. I like what this Musikante is all about.

Lucky


Spend some time with it and you'll find it is everything, contemporary and beyond

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FransN
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posted 11-24-2009 05:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FransN   Click Here to Email FransN     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lucky2Bhere:
I just read through all these messages again. I'm at a disadvantage because I'm not familiar with the Korg machines. But I went here:
http://www.korgpa.com/pa_root/en/products/pa500loc_info.html?en

What I get this time is that these 500's are all physically exactly the same....with the same sound engine?

The Musikant has different dance styles than the American version?

This USB Musikant stick...
http://www.musik-produktiv.de/korg-musikant-usb-stick.aspx

...has all these different sounds/styles contained in it and plugs into the USB port on the PA2xPRO (but not on the 500)?

I mentioned I called Korg but they know nothing about it.....and, I might add, couldn't give two hoots anyway.

Lucky


You can also go for the PA800 and the Musikant Stick. Still cheaper then the PA2X Pro plus you have aftertouch and DNC and the sample function which the PA500's don't have.
Now to answer your questions. The Local PA500's have different styles and sounds then the International PA500. The sounds and styles are based on the country. There are 4 Local versions the Pa500 Oriental, the Pa500 Musikant, the Pa500 Turkiye and the Pa500 China.

Yes the Musikant stick contains everything the keyboard version have. So infact you will have a totally different keyboard extra if you use it with a PA2X OR pa800.

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posted 11-24-2009 05:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ianmcnll   Click Here to Email ianmcnll     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
FransN,

So, am I to understand the Musikant Stick will not work with the PA-500 International model, and only with the region specific instruments (in regards to PA-500)?

Also, when using a region specific PA-500, the user does not get the full experience with the Musikant Stick, the way a PA-800 or PA2XPro user would...because of the extra sounds etc....am I correct?

Ian the Curious

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FransN
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quote:
Originally posted by ianmcnll:
FransN,

So, am I to understand the Musikant Stick will not work with the PA-500 International model, and only with the region specific instruments (in regards to PA-500)?

Also, when using a region specific PA-500, the user does not get the full experience with the Musikant Stick, the way a PA-800 or PA2XPro user would...because of the extra sounds etc....am I correct?

Ian the Curious


Correct Ian. The PA500 has no sample function so it is impossible to load the samples from the Musikant. I quess you can use the styles if someone copy them but you have to tweak them to make them work in the PA500. So if you like the Musikant more then the International PA500 you better buy a Musikant or what I do is buying a PA800 with the Musikant Stick and have both worlds.

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posted 11-24-2009 06:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ianmcnll   Click Here to Email ianmcnll     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by FransN:
So if you like the Musikant more then the International PA500 you better buy a Musikant or what I do is buying a PA800 with the Musikant Stick and have both worlds.

Yep, you're making the best decision...the PA-800 (or PA2XPro) with the stick is a sweet deal, for sure.

Ian

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posted 11-24-2009 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dud   Click Here to Email dud     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
what is the different between the musikant usb and the xms 64 usb ?

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Taike
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posted 11-24-2009 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taike     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by FransN:
Correct Ian. The PA500 has no sample function so it is impossible to load the samples from the Musikant. I quess you can use the styles if someone copy them but you have to tweak them to make them work in the PA500. So if you like the Musikant more then the International PA500 you better buy a Musikant or what I do is buying a PA800 with the Musikant Stick and have both worlds.

But the German PA500, if that's your choice, may not be availabe outside of Europe.

Regards

Taike

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posted 11-24-2009 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucky2Bhere     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Frans....thanks for your further explanation....and your additional answers to everyone here. This is a very interesting thread. I hope it can keep going for a while.

I played in Germany and loved the music. Something like what you're describing here is opening up a new Korg horizon for me.

Lucky

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posted 11-25-2009 08:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FransN   Click Here to Email FransN     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lucky2Bhere:
Frans....thanks for your further explanation....and your additional answers to everyone here. This is a very interesting thread. I hope it can keep going for a while.

I played in Germany and loved the music. Something like what you're describing here is opening up a new Korg horizon for me.

Lucky


Thanks Lucky This way a Korg never get bored.

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