posted 07-14-2009 04:24 PM            

Enjoy

posted 07-15-2009 04:28 AM            

I have also included some Direct Play (No Conversion) Yamaha styles (Yamaha styles are my least favourite but I thought I might as well post a few)
As is usual with Wersi the Drums are awful, (Although improved a little over time the drum module used is still almost 10 yrs old and way passed its sell buy date) and its replacement cannot come too soon (Sometime later this year is the prediction, thank goodness for Akai Samples and EZ Drummer in the meantime)
I have also upped the EQ and Reverb a bit from the original post.
http://www.4shared.com/file/118231689/3b87080a/Big_Band_Mambo.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/118231818/97dcaedf/Celtic_Trance.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/118231933/33fa7fe2/Country_Shuffle.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/118232062/24ee2f50/English_Waltz.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/118232235/c4799ad8/French_50s.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/118232426/40e68691/Guitar_Serenade.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/118232644/fb369455/Power_Rock.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/118232869/bd2fa760/Scand_Country.html

Enjoy

Bill

posted 07-16-2009 03:10 AM            

To do any editing (Which is limited by the primitive style system) you need to export the style as a Midi, then load it into the Midi sequencer and edit from there, when completed it then has to be imported back into the style system.

posted 07-16-2009 08:35 AM            

Another trial option is the Franz Lambert pack and I have included a couple of styles from it below.
http://www.4shared.com/file/118534772/d467f0/Discofox.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/118534929/e0ef6737/Samba_Latino.html

Finally a couple of styles from Rudi, an entertainer in Belgium
http://www.4shared.com/file/118535298/c0f506ee/Bad_Moon.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/118535498/c4787a5c/Leroy_Brown.html

Enjoy

Bill

posted 07-19-2009 09:04 AM            

Enjoy

Bill

posted 07-19-2009 09:36 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by abacus:
http://www.4shared.com/file/119151432/e386509d/Easy_Listening.html

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I couldn't face the prospect of listening to all of them, so I randomly picked that one, and I've got to ask you . . . Bill, have you played any other keyboards apart from your Wersi in the years since Reagan was President?

Those styles are just awful, even by the standards of the late 1980s.

posted 07-19-2009 10:31 AM            

Enjoy

posted 09-25-2009 03:17 AM         

I suppose that OAS vers. 8 is just around the corner, with native support of Yamaha styles that outclss yamaha's sound and Audio parts like Audya has and maybe even a good style editor.

I think this is what people expect from the most expensive keyboard on the Market.

posted 09-25-2009 06:25 AM            

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Originally posted by Bachus:
I suppose that OAS vers. 8 is just around the corner, with native support of Yamaha styles that outclss yamaha's sound and Audio parts like Audya has and maybe even a good style editor.

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Not even a murmur

OAS 7 (About 4 years old now) will continue(With ongoing updates and options) with the Steinberg Hypersonic VSTi sound engine for new voices, the Creamware Scope sound engine for legacy voices, the OX 7 drawbar sound engine for old and new organ voicing and Wersi's own WAV player Drum module for drums.

The Apollo (And I believe the Pegasus Wing) just use the Steinberg Hypersonic VSTi sound engine, and possibly the Wersi drum module.

As to a style editor, what have other manufactures got that the OAA does not have? (Only the Audya has anything different, but due to hardware limitations it will always be limited in its capabilities)

posted 09-25-2009 11:54 AM            

Without Mega Voice and SA technology, how does Wersi think they are going to be able to play Yamaha styles as good as even a PSR3k, let alone a T3?

Bottom line... if you rely on your competition to provide the styles that pull you out of the mud you are in, you are ALWAYS going to be playing catchup. And once they have moved forward technologically from your soundset, you'll NEVER get caught up...

posted 09-26-2009 01:01 AM         

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Originally posted by Diki:
Ye gods! Hypersonic has been out for YEARS... and sucked even back then.

Without Mega Voice and SA technology, how does Wersi think they are going to be able to play Yamaha styles as good as even a PSR3k, let alone a T3?

Bottom line... if you rely on your competition to provide the styles that pull you out of the mud you are in, you are ALWAYS going to be playing catchup. And once they have moved forward technologically from your soundset, you'll NEVER get caught up...

Time for Wersi to stop piggybacking on Yamaha, and come out with sound technologies and related styles that match their hugely inflated prices. If you cost the MOST, shouldn't you have the best styles and sounds, too?

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I'm sure Wersi only implemented Yamaha style playback in OAA so that users who switched from Yamaha to Wersi would be able to easily load their favorite styles into OAS. The style creator on the Wersi easily allows the user to create what the user wants, it just happens to be that most people don't create their own styles so they want to use other styles that are available from other manufacturers. Hence the use of OAA.

Sound wise the Wersi has no equal in any other arranger. I've said this time and time again, if you don't like the Wersi factory sounds which are almost all excellent, then simply load some AKAI samples, WAV files, or use VSTi. Try that on your T2, T3, or PSR.

Your conclusion that Wersi needs to catch up with Yamaha or other manufacturers is absurd. Who gives a damn about Mega Voices when you can load Real Guitars, True Piano, and Miroslav Orchestral sounds into your Wersi? I can't think of a single Yamaha sound that surpasses any of the sounds created by these programs.

posted 09-26-2009 01:30 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Ensnareyou:
...users who switched from Yamaha to Wersi...

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Are there such people?!

posted 09-26-2009 05:25 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Seamaster:
Are there such people?!

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I seriously doubt it, and I'm thinking there aren't many Roland players who would either.

Someone gave my friend's grandfather, a dedicated Roland player, a Wersi t-shirt, and, as a joke, they tried to put it on his dog.

posted 09-26-2009 06:28 AM            

As to whether a Wersi is for you or not, it boils down to what you want.

1. If you are perfectly happy to accept what the manufacture produces either as standard or as an add on, (Sounds, Features and Updates) then stick with a Hardware Arranger, as they are cheaper and will do most of what you require. (The perfect one has not been built, but there is plenty of choice out there)

2. If you want to be able to use sounds and features from other manufactures, (Akai samples, VSTi) with an easy to use interface, (After boot up the computer disappears) then the Wersi is the most viable option. (Others are available but usually require a more extensive knowledge of computers and music interfaces)

There is no right or wrong about either, its purely personal choice. (As I like to mix & match sounds and features from a selection of manufactures, for me, the Wersi is the best choice)

As to styles, then these are very expensive to produce, (As explained in other threads) and production of large numbers is way beyond the financial resources of smaller manufactures, therefore it is only logical for them to design an interface that can play another kind of style as well as its native format, (Personally I wish they had chosen Roland rather then Yamaha, but then that’s just me) to give customers a much wider option.

posted 09-26-2009 04:02 PM         

quote:

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Originally posted by Seamaster:
Are there such people?!

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I'm one of those people who moved from a Yamaha arranger to the Wersi. Yamaha didn't support the 9000 Pro like they claimed they would and after going back and forth with them, I had no other option but to dump Yamaha altogether.

I bought my Wersi sight unseen and based upon comments from other Wersi users I contacted and I haven't been disappointed since my purchase. The first time I switched the Wersi on I knew I had made the right decision. Its build quality, sounds, capabilities, and ease of use are unmatched by any other arranger.

posted 09-27-2009 02:00 AM            

Just make sure you NEVER ever play us any of these self made masterpieces, or we might have one MORE reason to say the Wersi sucks...

posted 09-27-2009 02:32 AM            

1. I suggest you follow your own advice and compare apples with apples and not apples with oranges.

2. Check what you have said in other threads, as a lot of your last post is contradictory.

posted 09-27-2009 02:43 AM            

Anyway the trials finished some time ago, so it’s back to normal, as without having the software in front of me it’s difficult to keep descriptions and comparisons accurate.

BFN

posted 09-27-2009 03:24 AM            

I'm comparing what I heard on one arranger with what I heard on another...

One of them didn't sound that good

Maybe, in the organ world, you are playing pedals, comping LH and leading with the right. All you need is a little timekeeping, and you are happy. Thing is, this is an ARRANGER forum. And, in the arranger world, the styles themselves are your backing band. You can be the world's best sax player, but if your combo don't swing, you still sound like poo.

Come on, Bill. You yourself admit the drums pretty much suck on the Wersi. And, where I come from, if your drums suck, that's it. Game over.