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silva
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posted 07-05-2005 08:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for silva     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Hi,
Someone could give me a advice between these 2 pianos?
Thanks

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Dreamer
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posted 07-05-2005 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreamer     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Silva,
the RD 700 SX is an excellent digital piano, but it's just that, meaning that all the other instruments (like guitars, organs, strings, etc) are nothing special. It can be used as a master keyboard (up to four zones with different settings) and can store registrations, but doesn't have aftertouch.
The Nord Stage Piano looks very promising on paper: Clavia has a reputation for its excellent electric pianos and Hammond sounds, and the Stage Piano will have also a good acoustic piano (the weak point of other Clavia models). Only problem is: it's not on the market yet and the estimed release date is between October and December.
Here is a link to a review of the RD 700 SX by Keyboard Magazine: http://www.keyboardmag.com/story.asp?sectioncode=30&storycode=7865

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o3bor
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posted 07-06-2005 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for o3bor   Click Here to Email o3bor     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Imho the RD 700 SX is the best digital piano in the market.
It is made to be a digital piano, so no wonder if the other sounds aren't as special as the piano sounds.
Anyway you could find the special sounds that you need on the several SRX expansions that can be added to the RD.

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silva
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posted 07-07-2005 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for silva     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Hi Dreamer and o3bor
Thanks for yours replies

Franky

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Route 66
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posted 07-08-2005 04:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Route 66   Click Here to Email Route 66     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
... and soon Yamaha will add one keyboard more to your dilemma: S90ES. -- José.

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silva
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posted 07-08-2005 09:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for silva     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Route 66:
... and soon Yamaha will add one keyboard more to your dilemma: S90ES. -- José.

Hi José,

In fact, it is not easy nowadays , to choose a keyboard, a piano, etc. But, dilemma is you buying something from Yamaha and 6 months later, it is out-of-date. Maybe you have no support. As you know the Yamaha staf moved from Portugal to Spain. Anyway I´m thinking which digital piano to choose. Maybe Clavia Stage, RD700Sx, S90ES or P250.

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Dreamer
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posted 07-08-2005 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreamer     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by silva:
I´m thinking which digital piano to choose. Maybe Clavia Stage, RD700Sx, S90ES or P250.[/B]

Well, since both the Clavia Stage and the S90ES are due out this fall, the best you (we) can do is wait and see.

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Route 66
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posted 07-08-2005 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Route 66   Click Here to Email Route 66     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by silva:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Route 66:
[b]... and soon Yamaha will add one keyboard more to your dilemma: S90ES. -- José.


Hi José,

In fact, it is not easy nowadays , to choose a keyboard, a piano, etc. But, dilemma is you buying something from Yamaha and 6 months later, it is out-of-date. Maybe you have no support. As you know the Yamaha staf moved from Portugal to Spain. Anyway I´m thinking which digital piano to choose. Maybe Clavia Stage, RD700Sx, S90ES or P250.[/B][/QUOTE]

Hi Silva.

I don't know exactly what you mean by "out-of-date". In some cases it seems indeed that Yamaha ended supporting some products (the case of the 9000 Pro, for example), but that happened way after 6 months the product was released. Anyway the technology used in arrangers has a certain "validity time limit" (they become obsolete after a certain time), but I believe this obsolescence period is larger than the period during which we normally keep a keyboard (we do like new toys a lot, but do they make our music better?).

And the fact that "Valentim de Carvalho" lost the Yamaha distribution in Portugal some years ago, making the distribution unique for the whole iberian peninsula doesn't really influence my choice too much. Madrid is closer to where I am than Lisbon! I never had to use Yamaha support, but I visited Yamaha-Spain once (Hazen Música in Madrid) and I kept an excellent impression of them. In other words I would not rule out Yamaha on the basis of an "uncertain support"...

Um abraço,

-- José.

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silva
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posted 07-11-2005 02:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for silva     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Route 66:
I would not rule out Yamaha on the basis of an "uncertain support"...

Hi José,
I think the support is very important. Imagine, you have HW problems and you have no keyboard backup,if the staff is near to you, it´s more easy to solve, otherwise, you have to wait a long time (time is money).

Abraços
Franky

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PaulD
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posted 07-13-2005 08:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PaulD   Click Here to Email PaulD     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I would suggest putting your hands on a Promega 3 or Promega 2 by Generalmusic. www.Generalmusic.us/Promega3.htm

Compare all three models and choose what sounds right to you!

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Paul Davis
Generalmusic
Generalmusic.US

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Dreamer
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posted 07-13-2005 10:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreamer     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Looks like it's possible to buy (or at least pre-order) a Clavia Nord Stage here

I agree with Paul Davis that, if one is looking mainly for acoustic piano sounds, the Promegas can be a better option (and a cheaper one too...)

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Route 66
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posted 07-13-2005 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Route 66   Click Here to Email Route 66     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Yeap, that's what the experts say. The Promegas use physical modeling, all the others are sample players. This results in a better connection between notes and an improved musical expressivity. -- José.

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silva
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posted 07-14-2005 04:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for silva     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Hi,PaulD,Dreamer and Route 66

In fact Promega 3 seems to me a good stage piano.
Thanks

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Dreamer
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posted 07-14-2005 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreamer     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Franky,
maybe you could be interested in checking the user reviews on the Harmony-Central Forum.
http://www.harmony-central.com/Synth/Data/#man

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silva
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posted 07-14-2005 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for silva     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Hi Dreamer
The user reviews is very important.
Thank you very much.
Franky

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