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cgiles
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posted 11-16-2009 03:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cgiles     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
A lot of people are worrying about the world coming to an end in 2012.

Bummer. I thought we’d gotten over all that in 2000.

The question of whether the End of Time will arrive during the holiday shopping season three years hence is already the subject of a veritable library of books. We also have what “The Complete Idiot’s Guide to 2012” claims are almost 600,000 Web sites devoted to worrying about it.

This seems to be the fault of Nostradamus, the Mayan calendar, angst on the left about global warming and angst on the right about the election of Barack Obama. Or the health care bill. Or government bailouts. Or the repositioning of “In God We Trust” on the nation’s coinage.

Really, for ultraconservatives, the last year has been one sign of the apocalypse after the other. Soon, the rivers will run red with Starbucks Raspberry-Flavored Tazo Passion Shaken Iced Tea. Owls will give birth to two-headed frogs who shriek the lyrics to Lady Gaga songs.

Hollywood is unleashing a raft of movies about humanity tottering on the edge of extinction. In “2012,” a G-8 summit convenes to discuss the fact that “the world as we know it will soon come to an end.” Actually, I would not be surprised if the participants found this preferable to another round of the Doha trade talks.

The film characters who are best prepared for the planetary calamity had been consulting the ancient Mayan calendar, which runs through more than five millennia and then comes screeching to a halt on Dec. 21, 2012. Some say that for the Mayans, this was just the end of a cycle, like completing a really long year, and that if they’d been able to hang around for a few more centuries they’d simply have issued a new, post-2012 calendar, this time perhaps including some nice pictures of puppies.

Others see more dire forces at work. In “2012,” the crust of the earth starts bouncing around like Tom DeLay in that cha-cha competition. No one can save us, not the black president or the governor of California with an Austrian accent. Certainly the Europeans can’t help, since not even the collapse of every tall building on the planet can get Americans to pay attention to non-American ideas.

Also coming soon to a theater near you are: “The Road” (Viggo Mortensen struggles across a barren landscape after a mysterious cataclysm) and “The Book of Eli” (Denzel Washington guards a book that could save post-apocalypse humanity from Gary Oldman). Obviously, Hollywood has determined that the reason all those Iraq-war-themed movies failed was that the moviegoers felt the scenery wasn’t bleak enough.

I’ve been disappointed that, so far, almost no one has noticed that St. Malachy’s List of the Last Popes has been running out of gas almost as fast as the Mayan calendar. Malachy was an Irish bishop who died in 1148, after allegedly having seen a vision of the future 112 popes who would reign until the end of the world. By this count, the current Benedict XVI would be 111.

Each of the popes gets a little hint as to his identity. For the most part, Malachy cannily chose to keep them general enough (“angelic shepherd”) that it was hard not to hit a lot of home runs. But good luck in figuring out how Benedict is “glory of the olives.”

Keeping things vague, or subject to multiple interpretations, is the real key to apocalyptic predictions. It’s what made Nostradamus a household name. He’d stare at a bowl of water for hours on end, and then come up with something like:

For the merry maid the bright splendor

Will shine no longer, for long will she be without salt.

With merchants, bullies, wolves odious,

All confusion universal monster.

Which is obviously a foretelling of the Sarah Palin book tour.

My own favorite prognosticator, The Amazing Criswell, always got into trouble with specificity, including his prediction that a black rainbow would circle the earth in 1999 and suck out all the oxygen. He lost a lot of credibility even earlier, after he announced that the United States would move its capital to Wichita and that pressures from outer space would turn Denver into jelly. Really, people tend to remember stuff like that.

I’m predicting that by the time we reach 2011, the 2012 Web sites will hit the million mark, not to mention the Twitters of Terror. But we’ve survived end-of-the-world panic many times before.

When I was a kid, the nuns at my school filled us with stories about prophecies of doom, frequently from Our Lady of Fatima. They always revolved around the Communist menace, and we were occasionally sent home on Friday with assurances that the End was coming by Sunday. We were credulous enough not to question why, in that case, there were homework assignments.

Written by Gail Collins.


chas

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Taike
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posted 11-16-2009 04:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taike     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
2012...and most of us here worrying about what the next TOTL arranger keyboard's going to be like.

It all just makes good(?)Hollywood material as it has for many years now. I doubt that, if it were true, anyone had the stomach to watch the BIG END in technicolor. Why pay to watch some phony special effects if you're going to be in the real thing.

But, Chas, if you're a believer, you won't mind sending me your red machine, will you?

Regards,

Taike

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squeak_D
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posted 11-16-2009 04:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for squeak_D   Click Here to Email squeak_D     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Chas.., did you see that vid where scientists are investigating this claim of the Mayan calender? They found evidence that may have played a big role in how the Mayan's came to this conclusion.

They found evidence of an "instant freeze". It was down right freaky. A glacier is melting and as it melts it's revealing a moment literally frozen in time. They found plants, trees, and other plant-life that was almost instantly frozen about 5200 years ago. The plantlife is still rooted.., leaves, ect still there.

I can't remember everything about the vid.., but where and when this freeze took place plays a huge role in the Mayan calender. I'll try and find the vid and post a link to it.

I'm not saying the world's ending in 2012.., but the vid helps shed light on the Mayan prediction.

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captain Russ
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posted 11-16-2009 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for captain Russ   Click Here to Email captain Russ     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Agree or disagree, superior, creative writing is Wonderful! And, in this case, quite funny!


Thanks, Chas,


Russ

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DanO1
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posted 11-16-2009 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DanO1   Click Here to Email DanO1     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Soon they will be talking about the 24 gallons on the Moon will make the moon crack in half.

2012 is the #1 hit at the box office this weekend. lol

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FAEbGBD
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posted 11-16-2009 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FAEbGBD   Click Here to Email FAEbGBD     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Something made the dinosaurs disappear, right????

Instant freeze? well ge, shouldn't we be burning more fossil fuels then to make sure we have enough global warming to never have that happen again? We people think we know so freakin much, when we don't know hardly anything on a cosmic or planetary scale.

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cgiles
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posted 11-17-2009 04:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cgiles     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I sorta count on being dead by the time whatever is going to happen, happens.

chas

You know, for a lot of people, 2012 WILL be the end of the world (for THEM).

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Stephenm52
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posted 12-08-2009 09:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stephenm52   Click Here to Email Stephenm52     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
It's God's will. The question becomes are you ready to meet him no matter when that time will be. I've adopted the "Day at a Time." philosophy. Live today the best I can for tomorrow may never come for any of us.

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Taike
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posted 12-08-2009 08:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taike     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Stephenm52:
It's God's will. The question becomes are you ready to meet him no matter when that time will be. I've adopted the "Day at a Time." philosophy. Live today the best I can for tomorrow may never come for any of us.

Stephen, if your wife adheres to this philosophy she'll be on a never-ending shopping spree.

Taike

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Stephenm52
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posted 12-09-2009 09:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stephenm52   Click Here to Email Stephenm52     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Taike:
Stephen, if your wife adheres to this philosophy she'll be on a never-ending shopping spree.

Taike


Taike, love your sense of humor. Although she does adhere to the philosophy it doesn't extent to shopping.

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Taike
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posted 12-09-2009 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taike     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Stephenm52:
Taike, love your sense of humor. Although she does adhere to the philosophy it doesn't extent to shopping.


It's a good philosophy, Stephen. You know that I was only kidding so that's good too. Anyone else would've sued me for slander.

Regards

Taike

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Stephenm52
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posted 12-10-2009 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stephenm52   Click Here to Email Stephenm52     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Taike:
It's a good philosophy, Stephen. You know that I was only kidding so that's good too. Anyone else would've sued me for slander.

Regards

Taike



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The Saint
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posted 12-11-2009 01:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Saint   Click Here to Email The Saint     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Yeaaahhhh, well if He wants me, He will have to come and get me. I am not going voluntarily. I have songs to learn and write for posterity.
It is said,"you cannot take your money with you", well!!! I AM NOT GOING.
Ray

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Taike
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posted 12-11-2009 06:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taike     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Saint:
Yeaaahhhh, well if He wants me, He will have to come and get me. I am not going voluntarily. I have songs to learn and write for posterity.
It is said,"you cannot take your money with you", well!!! I AM NOT GOING.
Ray


She doesn't want your money, Ray. She wants YOU!

The good thing about eternal life is that there's no concept of time so let her wait. We want you HERE!
http://www.jaguarjulie.com/images/VictoriaSecretAngel.jpg

Taike

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The Saint
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posted 12-12-2009 12:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Saint   Click Here to Email The Saint     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I should have known better than to challenge your spiritual intellect, Taike. But now, because of that, I have changed my mind, "SHE' can come and get me anytime. (That is, when "The Gardener goes shopping).
P.S.Sadly, today, a friend of mine was given the bad news, that, after having a small lump removed from his neck,he was advised there was nothing more they could do for him.
Let us be eternally grateful for what we have.
Ray

Merry Christmas to everyone, and Nigel!!

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124
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posted 12-12-2009 09:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 124     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
And guys, you DO know that the Mayan colander is full of holes?

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