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D.Munson Member |
I followed Bill's instructions and downloaded the styles to a desktop folder. I formatted a bran new 1GB SD card on my KN7000, then up loaded the styles to the card and checked to see if they were on the card ok. When I tried to load them on my KN7000 a message told me "the file that you tried to load is empty" What's gone wrong? Any ideas? Incidentally if anyone wants a 1GB card they are obtainable from www.premier-ink.co.uk Derek IP: Logged |
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Bert Aarts Member |
Derek, I followed Bill's instructions and also loaded to a 1GB card. No problem. Did you copy a file to the card to establish the KN7000 directory/file structure (PRIVATE > TECHNICS > KN7000)after formatting in KN7? IP: Logged |
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D.Munson Member |
quote: Thanks Bert that's where I went wrong, am now in the process of re-loading on to the sd card IP: Logged |
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D.Munson Member |
quote: It still didn't work !! Derek IP: Logged |
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Bernie9 Member |
I wonder if it could be Bill's 1/13 post, item 7 ? http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/Forum25/HTML/005144.html IP: Logged |
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Bill Norrie Member |
Since a few people seem to be having problems transferring Bernie's styles to SD Card, perhaps a different method may make it easier ![]() Go here : http://www.4shared.com/file/205388070/943a2076/KN7000.html and download the file. Then use either Song Manager or Fred's KN SD_Explorer program to 'Restore' the file to a blank SD Card, using a USB Reader Writer. The file is a direct copy of my SD Card and is in SDB format, suitable for the direct restore operation. IP: Logged |
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Bob Hendershot Member |
Excellent, Bill IP: Logged |
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Bernie9 Member |
Thanks Bill, for straightening out my incomplete structure. Bernie IP: Logged |
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The Saint Member |
Thanks to all involved. My problem solved by using new SD card. No more delays, obviously the card is faulty, and I will return it. Ray ------------------ IP: Logged |
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D.Munson Member |
quote: I'm not getting anywhere with loading Bernies style onto a SD card. I have no problem downloading onto a floppy disc then loading on to my KN7000, then transfering on to a SD card. The Song Manager Bill mentioned I could not transfer the styles using that, and the only way I can use the styles on my KN7000 is by the method I mentioned although of course it takes an eternity to do. Derek IP: Logged |
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Audrey Turner Member |
I am not having any success with Bernie's styles either Derek. My KN7 shows the same message "empty" I have now formatted a new SD Card in the KN7, saved etc. downloaded Bernie's styles Thank you any way Bernie, it is good of you to think of us all. Audrey [This message has been edited by Audrey Turner (edited 01-30-2010).] IP: Logged |
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Bill Norrie Member |
I'm a bit busy at present, but give me a couple of days or so and I'll write a step-by-step procedure for restoring the styles from the Back-Up file which I placed on the "4shared" website............... IP: Logged |
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D.Munson Member |
quote: Yes Audrey, this is exactly what I was getting on my KN7000 when I tried to load the card."The file that you tried to load is empty. Derek IP: Logged |
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D.Munson Member |
quote: Yes Audrey, this is exactly what I was getting on my KN7000 when I tried to load the card."The file that you tried to load is empty. Derek IP: Logged |
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hbinfo2001 Member |
Hi,I download all the pads on a disquette and I try to save them on another sd card but no luck His there a procedure to download them on the sd card from the disk Thanks IP: Logged |
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Bill Norrie Member |
Restoring Bernie's Styles to SD Card To enable this procedure to be followed, I must assume the following : There are some differences in the procedures using Song Manager and Fred's program, so a procedure is written for both programs. Procedure 1 - Using Song Manager. 1. Go to http://www.4shared.com/file/205388070/943a2076/KN7000.html and download the 'KN7000.sdb' file. For simplicity, I suggest you download the file to your Procedure 2 - Using KN-SDExplorer. The KN-SDExplorer program does not recognise a blank SD Card, when it is connected via an SD Reader/Writer on a USB port, so an additional step is required to enable the program to recognise the card. 1. Place a blank SD Card in your KN7000 and execute a Save procedure - it does not matter what you save - it is just a procedure to establish the folder/file structure on the SD Card, so that the KN-SDExplorer program will recognise the Card. The SD Card will then be ready to use in your KN7000. Hope this helps - I cannot make the process any simpler [This message has been edited by Bill Norrie (edited 01-27-2010).] IP: Logged |
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RMepstead Member |
Popped out and bought a new 2gig SD Card - initialised it in my KN7000 - used Song Manager for KN to transfer these files to it - and Bob's your uncle it works perfectly - many thanks Bernie... IP: Logged |
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Bernie9 Member |
Hi Rog We are gearing up for our annual Jam in Florida, and I was thinking of my three favorite Brits. Your names come up all the time. Hip Hip Hooray IP: Logged |
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RMepstead Member |
Aaah - memories... Rog IP: Logged |
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trevorjohn Member |
I have also been trying to load the styles with exactly the same problems described by others. I must point our that I have recently acquired a KN7000 after a long spell on Tyroses 1 and 2. (Is that the right plural for Tyros?). I did not get anything other than the board and manual so I do not have the Panasonic Song Manager Program which appears to be essential to perform this load. Is it possible to obtain the disc on which this program appears? I am so pleased to be playing the KN7000 again after the Tyros years but do find some of the built in styles a bit dated and would very much like to be able to load others. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Trevor IP: Logged |
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Bill Norrie Member |
Hi Trevor and welcome back to the 'Technics Fold' ![]() You'll find the files necessary to burn an 'Applications and Drivers' CD, (Which includes Song Manager) on my website : http://www.willumspages.co.uk/ Tech Tips page - Tip number 15. You should also download either Tip 1 or 2 - depending on your PC operating system, which describes the installation procedure for the drivers and programs on the CD. Regarding the KN7000 built-in styles - you can also download all the built-in styles from the previous KN series (2000 - 6500 and KN2400/2600) here : http://www.willumspages.co.uk/page8.html All these styles have been re-configured to KN7000 format. Have Fun! IP: Logged |
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trevorjohn Member |
Many thanks for your prompt reply Bill. I will burn the CD forthwith. I have already downloaded the styles from you site but have so far been unable to load them..Will try again later. Many thanks again Trevor IP: Logged |
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trevorjohn Member |
After I replied to your last post Bill I have had to give other matters my undivided attention so have been unable to respond until now. I have encountered some problems. These may be due to computer mismatches in part. My PC runs on Windows 7 and my laptop on XP. I have downloaded everything OK onto the PC but I suspect that it doesn't like the Technics programs because as soon as I try to transfer into Song Manager I get an error message. My router doesn't work on the la top, only on XP and Vista. The other complication is that I cannot obtain any 1gig SD cards locally and the 7000 wont accept 2gig cards. The ones that I have from my old 7000 come from the days when 16mb was massive and they are no use for files of the size involved here. I shall continue to search on the web. I don't know if anyone knows the answer to another problem I have. As I said in my first post, the KN7000 which I bought had no software with it but it has got a lot of the previous owner's setting which I would like to replace. Factory reset doesn't remove them and the manual mentions a CD which would.. Is this obtainable nowadays or is there another way to achieve my objective? I have spotted the link to Premier-Ink and will check whether they still have the 1GB cards. Cheers, Trevor IP: Logged |
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trevorjohn Member |
Success. They still have the 1 gig cards IP: Logged |
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Bernie9 Member |
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sandisk-1Gb-Secure-Digital-card/dp/B00065KA7C IP: Logged |
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RMepstead Member |
Trevor - you may not know it but you live very near to Audrey...could be helpful... Anyway, you say of your KN7000 - it has got a lot of the previous owner's setting which I would like to replace - can you be a bit more clear about which particular area of the keyboard these settings are giving you problems? Rog IP: Logged |
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Audrey Turner Member |
Hello Trevor, It's funny Roger should mention you live near me for as as soon as I saw your name and the mention of the Tyros keyboard, my thoughts turned to the Quy Organ Club which unfortunately because of other commitments, I am not able to visit on a regular basis, but on the one night I did go a few months back, the organist didn't turn up and one of the Members went home and fetched his Tyros with which he entertained us all evening and which, in my opinion was played better than some of the professionals. Could that be you by any chance? Please feel free to email me. Audrey IP: Logged |
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trevorjohn Member |
Hi Roger The settings that I wish to delete are the custom styles. It may be that once I am able to get the styles which I have dowloaded onto one of the 1Gig cards which have now been ordered the problem may solve itself. I hope to know by the end of the week. The trouble with getting old is that you forget how you did things a few years back ( or even a few days back). As you will have seen from Audrey's post we have indeed met at the Cambridge Club. I was the person involved on that occasion. Fortunately I only live 10 minutes drive from the venue so the Chairman come with me to collect my gear which all had to be disassembled first. What a panic. But we made it OK and the concert started 20 minutes late. Which wasn't bad. Although I hadn't got a program prepared, my years of experience got me through and everyone seemed quite happy. Regards IP: Logged |
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trevorjohn Member |
Hello Audrey As you will see from my previous post I was indeed the guilty party on that occasion at Quy. I still go there when it doesn't clash with other gigs; this coming Saturday being one, I hope. I would e-mail you if I could remember how to access your profile but that is another facility which has faded into the deep recesses of my sub-conscious. Best wishes...Trevor IP: Logged |
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technicsplayer Member |
quote: Regarding the custom styles they are in flash memory and stay there permanently until you overwrite them - either with new styles from sd or floppy or with blanks. I provided blanks of single customs and an all 20 blank file to load in with the 7000 book for people who like neat custom sections Any reset does not affect them. The initial floppy disk had the 20 factory custom styles - you don't need the cds. It can still be downloaded here http://www.technics-music-service.de/downloads/index.htm Alternatively you could erase a composer and copy it to a custom to blank it. IP: Logged |
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RMepstead Member |
Hi again Trevor Glad that you and Audrey have met...if under rather strange circumstances... The question that I must now ask is: Why do you want to delete the 'Custom' styles as they are not interfering with anything...or, do you actually mean 'custom' styles or do you mean stuff that is in the panel memories that you are calling custom styles? [This message has been edited by RMepstead (edited 02-08-2010).] IP: Logged |
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technicsplayer Member |
quote: Trevor has already done a factory reset, which by definition will have restored all the panel memories to initial state. IP: Logged |
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RMepstead Member |
Good point Alec - but you will know as well as I that understanding precisely what folk mean when they put a message on here takes a bit of delving into sometimes...chuckle... I've just noticed that Trevor wrote and I quote 'but do find some of the built in styles a bit dated and would very much like to be able to load others.' which kind of suggests to me that working with other style files than the built in standard and custom styles is foreign to him...so I'm delving.... [This message has been edited by RMepstead (edited 02-08-2010).] IP: Logged |
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Keyboardcapers Member |
Hi there Bernie I do appreciate your kindness in sharing the files that you must have patiently accumulated. My colleague!! has kindly downloaded them for me. However on checking the PDF listing we have come to the conclusion that you are not a reggae fan. Yours musically Midge IP: Logged |
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Bernie9 Member |
Hi Midge LOL, I grant you South Florida is a bit closer than the UK, I might as well be in Alaska for the Reggae styles I've accumulated, which is none. Sorry Midge. Cheers Bernie IP: Logged |
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Bill Norrie Member |
Midge, There are several reggae styles in the past KN series keyboards. If you don't have them, they are within the download on my website : http://www.willumspages.co.uk/page8.html IP: Logged |
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Keyboardcapers Member |
you know what you are Bill.....you're a darling. Many thanks. IP: Logged |
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