CTK 691 don't work like master keyboard

i have join midi cable to soundcard and in/out entry to my ctk 691.
When i wanna play with my computer it's dont work, please help me!

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2 things... The midi cable is 'labled' from the computer's point if view, so the cable labled 'midi out' connects to the 'midi in' port on the Casio...then the other cable is easy
The other is...you need to select the correct 'path' for the midi data...this is found in the midi 'drivers'. you want the drivers that have the words 'in' and 'out' somewhere in their name.

Are you using a computer based music sequencer program, to play/record with?

with the setting keyboard. how activate midi function?

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now i can play on my computer with the mouse on the virtual instrument and the sound go out mmy ctk 691!!I want the opposite!

What program are you using in the computer? You need some program that will route the midi input to the soundcard.....like this: http://www.pgmusic.com/powertracks.htm

i try to use casio data management but i can see a error when i refresh keybpard list:
TIMEOUT ERROR

my settings
midi input device:
Port MIDI SB Live! [D400]
midi output device:
Port MIDI SB Live! [D400]

The Casio software won't 'play' your sound card, it is used to load files into the Casio. Is this a different question? The 'time out' usually means that you have one of the 'drivers' set wrong (probably the computer's input driver...because of your last post, saying that computer out works)
What is the 'whole list' of drivers you have, and what type of computer (laptop/desktop) are you using?

I'm still asking what computer program are you trying to use..to get your Casio to 'play' the sound card? Please let me know...so that I can help you

[This message has been edited by Jim Wintringham (edited 10-28-2004).]

i use native instrument b52 and oxigen. last year i had a Roland 180a (master keyboard) -> All works perfect. I have Windows XP and Sounblaster Live platinium 5.1 ( with original drivers) . I think download KXproject drivers is a good choice, do you know?

I tried the KX drivers, and it took a LOT of effort to get it running. You need to completely remove all the SoundBlaster software...before loading in the KX program.
I didn't see much difference...for all the work, plus I lost the use of the SoundBlaster routines (like loading in different soundfonts). That could just be me though I am now back to the SoundBlaster drivers...and they work fine for me. The main thing the KX driver is ment to improve is the 'tracking' of your sounds.And it has some 'fancy' looking tone controlers. If you don't notice any 'delay' when playing a note on your Casio...and hearing it on the computer speaker....I wouldn't mess with the KX driver (my opinion).

I take it that the 'b52' is an organ simulation. That program should have a 'midi driver' list. You cann't hurt anything to try out the various drivers on the 'input' side of the choice list...untill you get the one that works. My guess is that the output is routed to the b52 'softsynth' driver...which would be like a 'soundfont'routine.

The same is true of the Casio software...try out the drivers untill you get the correct one. And remember...if you can play a midi file, and hear it play on the Casio (not the computer speakers)...you have the correct 'output' driver selected,for the Casio program.

So, you may need to select different drivers, for the different programs ...as you use them.

I don't think either of your programs are 'sequencers', though (I'm not sure). Did you check out the 'Power Tracks' program link I posted? That is the type of program that will let you record your playing to the Computer as 'midi data'..... or using the Casio's headphone jack connected to the soundcard 'line in' jack....you can record the actual Casio tones, as 'audio' recording (like a tape recorder).

Let me know how things work out for you





[This message has been edited by Jim Wintringham (edited 10-28-2004).]

your program is unfortunatly not fre ;-( . but i can get cubase who is a sequencer and play with VTS instrument. Yes when i play midi file, sound go out to my ctk 691!
thanks you very much, really, its very cool for me to read your post, thannkkss! :-)
What is the best sequencer for you?

My favorite sequencer program is 'Power Tracks', which at $49 (U.S.)...is the most reasonable, full featured program. Version 9 is amazing...you can make 'harmony' parts to your singing, automaticly.. (and correct the pitch of your singing). It allows you to mix midi and audio data.

I also use 'Cakewalk Express Gold Ver.6'(it came with my sound card bundle). I like it for the 'piano roll' editor.

A 'free' audio recording program (NOT MIDI)..is 'Audacity' ...download at: http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

Version 3 is really nice...lots of features. You would use this one to record the Casio tones, from the Casio headphone jack to the 'line in' of the sound card.

On your other trouble...how are you doing? I have more things for you to check, if you are still having trouble. Like:

1. With a new version of windows...it is possible that you didn't get the 'full' multimedia driver set loaded. You can fix this in the 'control pannel/ add-remove programs/ windows' then click 'off, then on', on the 'multimedia' box ...insert the windows disk...and it will load the whole driver set.

2. You may have the 'midi' slider turned down, or not enabled (so that the sound card can 'recieve' midi data). This is found in the soundcard volume controls (the RECORD screen)

3. If you want to use the 'B25' sounds...you want that program's 'input' driver selected..for your 'output' (another words the 'output' side of the midi driver selection). This is different than having the Casio play midi files from the computer. You are playing notes on the Casio, and 'hearing' the 'B52' sounds on the computer speakers.


Keep me posted






[This message has been edited by Jim Wintringham (edited 10-29-2004).]

send me a mail: oursongaby@aol.com
i'll send you picture to my configuration.
thanks

Are you still having trouble?

If so, just post your input and output driver list...or just try each of them. Remember, the 'input' drivers are for when you play the Casio, and hear it on the computer, and the 'output' drivers select where the midi song will play (computer or Casio)

yes, im in trouble!! Do you have GM MODE on your keyboard because i dont find it in my ctk and one friend use this settings to play midi

I have a wk3000, but it is most likely the same ...or close. When you play a midi, the GM bank is the 'default' that the Casio uses. This starts at 'tone' 300..to 427. Those are the 'standard' GM tones. So, if your friend makes a midi...you don't really need to set anything, for it to play correctly on your Casio...it is a default, automatic process.

You have never said if you can now play the Casio 'into' the computer. Is that working?

no it dont work, I sell it for buy a true pro digital piano!

Switch the midi cables...

With the same cable situation, my master keyboard has work perferctly.

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"You have never said if you can now play the Casio 'into' the computer. Is that working?"
No, always

Thank very much for your post and help

It looks like you have installed the 'KX' drivers. I had lots of trouble with those drivers. You need to completely remove all the 'soundblaster' program, before you can get a 'good', working load. Also, there are different versions, for the different 'Windows' program you are using. The correct input driver is the 'kX uart kX Generic[D 400]'. If it isn't working...you may have to 'clean off the kX drivers', and reloads them.

It sounds like your basic problem remains, that you cann't get the 'Casio midi out' to work. To test the Casio, you could try connecting the 'Casio midi output jack' to another keyboard's 'midi input'...and see if it will make the other keyboard work (play the notes...as you play them on the Casio). That would tell you for sure that the Casio output jack is working. Next, I would try a different keyboard...connected to your same computer (using the same midi cables). This will tell you if the trouble is the computer settings, or midi cables. Finally, try your Casio with another computer (that is properly working with another midi keyboard). If it works, then try YOUR midi cables with the other computer. If it STILL works...you have a problem with your computer setup, for sure

You wrote: "With the same cable situation, my master keyboard has work perferctly."

Do you still have that keyboard...to try out your current computer setup? It would help to know if that keyboard works ...now.

[This message has been edited by Jim Wintringham (edited 11-07-2004).]