how to stop Cakewalk/Virtual Jukebox sending unnecessary stuff?

Posted by: merlinzen

how to stop Cakewalk/Virtual Jukebox sending unnecessary stuff? - 07/12/03 02:59 PM

Hi,

I notice there is a delay when changing songs using Virtual Jukebox,
a short break in sound which is annoying when playing live.
In the process of tracking down the problem I discovered that
a whole bunch of stuff is sent when pressing the spacebar for
the new song, whether it's needed or not.
For example, the midi events pasted below are what gets sent when
I select a song that only has patch info on channels one and two;
especially troublesome is the sending of CC121 - the "reset all
controllers" message. I can filter it out in software [MIDIOX],
but for the rest, some of my songs have many channels, others
have only one.

If I create a song in CW with only one or two channels, why does
VJ insist on sending out all that other stuff?
How can I make it ONLY send what I put in the song?

here is the pasted info from a song with only two tracks:

TIMESTAMP PORT STATUS DATA1 DATA2 CHAN NOTE EVENT
0008DF71 3 B0 20 04 1 -- CC: Bank LSB
0008DF73 3 C0 1F -- 1 -- PC: Guitar Harmonics
0008DF74 3 B0 07 7F 1 -- CC: Volume
0008DF74 2 B0 00 43 1 -- CC: Bank MSB
0008DF74 2 B0 20 00 1 -- CC: Bank LSB
0008DF74 2 C0 12 -- 1 -- PC: Rock Organ
0008DF74 2 B0 07 7F 1 -- CC: Volume
0008DF75 3 B0 20 04 1 -- CC: Bank LSB
0008DF75 3 C0 1F -- 1 -- PC: Guitar Harmonics
0008DF75 3 B0 07 7F 1 -- CC: Volume
0008DF75 2 E0 00 40 1 -- Pitch Bend
0008DF75 2 B0 01 00 1 -- CC: Modulation
0008DF75 2 B0 40 00 1 -- CC: Pedal (Sustain)
0008DF75 2 B0 79 00 1 -- CC: Reset Cntrl
0008DF75 2 E1 00 40 2 -- Pitch Bend
0008DF75 2 B1 01 00 2 -- CC: Modulation
0008DF75 2 B1 40 00 2 -- CC: Pedal (Sustain)
0008DF75 2 B1 79 00 2 -- CC: Reset Cntrl
0008DF75 2 E2 00 40 3 -- Pitch Bend
0008DF75 2 B2 01 00 3 -- CC: Modulation
0008DF75 2 B2 40 00 3 -- CC: Pedal (Sustain)
0008DF75 2 B2 79 00 3 -- CC: Reset Cntrl
0008DF75 2 E3 00 40 4 -- Pitch Bend
0008DF75 2 B3 01 00 4 -- CC: Modulation
0008DF75 2 B3 40 00 4 -- CC: Pedal (Sustain)
0008DF75 2 B3 79 00 4 -- CC: Reset Cntrl
0008DF75 2 E4 00 40 5 -- Pitch Bend
0008DF75 2 B4 01 00 5 -- CC: Modulation
0008DF75 2 B4 40 00 5 -- CC: Pedal (Sustain)
0008DF75 2 B4 79 00 5 -- CC: Reset Cntrl
0008DF75 2 E5 00 40 6 -- Pitch Bend
0008DF75 2 B5 01 00 6 -- CC: Modulation
0008DF75 2 B5 40 00 6 -- CC: Pedal (Sustain)
0008DF75 2 B5 79 00 6 -- CC: Reset Cntrl
0008DF75 2 E6 00 40 7 -- Pitch Bend
0008DF75 2 B6 01 00 7 -- CC: Modulation
0008DF75 2 B6 40 00 7 -- CC: Pedal (Sustain)
0008DF75 2 B6 79 00 7 -- CC: Reset Cntrl
0008DF76 2 E7 00 40 8 -- Pitch Bend
0008DF76 2 B7 01 00 8 -- CC: Modulation
0008DF76 2 B7 40 00 8 -- CC: Pedal (Sustain)
0008DF76 2 B7 79 00 8 -- CC: Reset Cntrl
0008DF76 2 E8 00 40 9 -- Pitch Bend
0008DF76 2 B8 01 00 9 -- CC: Modulation
0008DF76 2 B8 40 00 9 -- CC: Pedal (Sustain)
0008DF76 2 B8 79 00 9 -- CC: Reset Cntrl
0008DF76 2 E9 00 40 10 -- Pitch Bend
0008DF76 2 B9 01 00 10 -- CC: Modulation
0008DF76 2 B9 40 00 10 -- CC: Pedal (Sustain)
0008DF76 2 B9 79 00 10 -- CC: Reset Cntrl
0008DF76 2 EA 00 40 11 -- Pitch Bend
0008DF76 2 BA 01 00 11 -- CC: Modulation
0008DF76 2 BA 40 00 11 -- CC: Pedal (Sustain)
0008DF76 2 BA 79 00 11 -- CC: Reset Cntrl
0008DF76 2 EB 00 40 12 -- Pitch Bend
0008DF76 2 BB 01 00 12 -- CC: Modulation
0008DF76 2 BB 40 00 12 -- CC: Pedal (Sustain)
0008DF76 2 BB 79 00 12 -- CC: Reset Cntrl
0008DF76 2 EC 00 40 13 -- Pitch Bend
0008DF76 2 BC 01 00 13 -- CC: Modulation
0008DF76 2 BC 40 00 13 -- CC: Pedal (Sustain)
0008DF76 2 BC 79 00 13 -- CC: Reset Cntrl
0008DF76 2 ED 00 40 14 -- Pitch Bend
0008DF76 2 BD 01 00 14 -- CC: Modulation
0008DF76 2 BD 40 00 14 -- CC: Pedal (Sustain)
0008DF76 2 BD 79 00 14 -- CC: Reset Cntrl
0008DF76 2 EE 00 40 15 -- Pitch Bend
0008DF76 2 BE 01 00 15 -- CC: Modulation
0008DF76 2 BE 40 00 15 -- CC: Pedal (Sustain)
0008DF76 2 BE 79 00 15 -- CC: Reset Cntrl
0008DF76 2 EF 00 40 16 -- Pitch Bend
0008DF76 2 BF 01 00 16 -- CC: Modulation
0008DF76 2 BF 40 00 16 -- CC: Pedal (Sustain)
0008DF76 2 BF 79 00 16 -- CC: Reset Cntrl
0008DF76 3 E0 00 40 1 -- Pitch Bend
0008DF76 3 B0 01 00 1 -- CC: Modulation
0008DF76 3 B0 40 00 1 -- CC: Pedal (Sustain)
0008DF76 3 B0 79 00 1 -- CC: Reset Cntrl
0008DF76 3 E1 00 40 2 -- Pitch Bend
0008DF76 3 B1 01 00 2 -- CC: Modulation
0008DF76 3 B1 40 00 2 -- CC: Pedal (Sustain)
0008DF76 3 B1 79 00 2 -- CC: Reset Cntrl
0008DF76 3 E2 00 40 3 -- Pitch Bend
0008DF76 3 B2 01 00 3 -- CC: Modulation
0008DF76 3 B2 40 00 3 -- CC: Pedal (Sustain)
0008DF76 3 B2 79 00 3 -- CC: Reset Cntrl
0008DF77 3 E3 00 40 4 -- Pitch Bend
0008DF77 3 B3 01 00 4 -- CC: Modulation
0008DF77 3 B3 40 00 4 -- CC: Pedal (Sustain)
0008DF77 3 B3 79 00 4 -- CC: Reset Cntrl
0008DF77 3 E4 00 40 5 -- Pitch Bend
0008DF77 3 B4 01 00 5 -- CC: Modulation
0008DF77 3 B4 40 00 5 -- CC: Pedal (Sustain)
0008DF77 3 B4 79 00 5 -- CC: Reset Cntrl
0008DF77 3 E5 00 40 6 -- Pitch Bend
0008DF77 3 B5 01 00 6 -- CC: Modulation
0008DF77 3 B5 40 00 6 -- CC: Pedal (Sustain)
0008DF77 3 B5 79 00 6 -- CC: Reset Cntrl
0008DF77 3 E6 00 40 7 -- Pitch Bend
0008DF77 3 B6 01 00 7 -- CC: Modulation
0008DF77 3 B6 40 00 7 -- CC: Pedal (Sustain)
0008DF77 3 B6 79 00 7 -- CC: Reset Cntrl
0008DF77 3 E7 00 40 8 -- Pitch Bend
0008DF77 3 B7 01 00 8 -- CC: Modulation
0008DF77 3 B7 40 00 8 -- CC: Pedal (Sustain)
0008DF77 3 B7 79 00 8 -- CC: Reset Cntrl
0008DF77 3 E8 00 40 9 -- Pitch Bend
0008DF77 3 B8 01 00 9 -- CC: Modulation
0008DF77 3 B8 40 00 9 -- CC: Pedal (Sustain)
0008DF77 3 B8 79 00 9 -- CC: Reset Cntrl
0008DF77 3 E9 00 40 10 -- Pitch Bend
0008DF77 3 B9 01 00 10 -- CC: Modulation
0008DF77 3 B9 40 00 10 -- CC: Pedal (Sustain)
0008DF77 3 B9 79 00 10 -- CC: Reset Cntrl
0008DF77 3 EA 00 40 11 -- Pitch Bend
0008DF77 3 BA 01 00 11 -- CC: Modulation
0008DF77 3 BA 40 00 11 -- CC: Pedal (Sustain)
0008DF77 3 BA 79 00 11 -- CC: Reset Cntrl
0008DF77 3 EB 00 40 12 -- Pitch Bend
0008DF77 3 BB 01 00 12 -- CC: Modulation
0008DF78 3 BB 40 00 12 -- CC: Pedal (Sustain)
0008DF78 3 BB 79 00 12 -- CC: Reset Cntrl
0008DF78 3 EC 00 40 13 -- Pitch Bend
0008DF78 3 BC 01 00 13 -- CC: Modulation
0008DF78 3 BC 40 00 13 -- CC: Pedal (Sustain)
0008DF78 3 BC 79 00 13 -- CC: Reset Cntrl
0008DF78 3 ED 00 40 14 -- Pitch Bend
0008DF78 3 BD 01 00 14 -- CC: Modulation
0008DF78 3 BD 40 00 14 -- CC: Pedal (Sustain)
0008DF78 3 BD 79 00 14 -- CC: Reset Cntrl
0008DF78 3 EE 00 40 15 -- Pitch Bend
0008DF78 3 BE 01 00 15 -- CC: Modulation
0008DF78 3 BE 40 00 15 -- CC: Pedal (Sustain)
0008DF78 3 BE 79 00 15 -- CC: Reset Cntrl
0008DF78 3 EF 00 40 16 -- Pitch Bend
0008DF78 3 BF 01 00 16 -- CC: Modulation
0008DF78 3 BF 40 00 16 -- CC: Pedal (Sustain)
0008DF78 3 BF 79 00 16 -- CC: Reset Cntrl



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Merlin Zener
piano, synthesizer
Pattaya, Thailand.
Posted by: Pilot

Re: how to stop Cakewalk/Virtual Jukebox sending unnecessary stuff? - 07/12/03 04:33 PM

What it's doing is initialising all the midi channels which is a common thing to do. My keyboard sends all this junk on power up. I had a look in Cakewalk and Virtual Jukebox but couldn't find any options to turn it off. I seem to remember that was one of the complaints about Cakewalk, that it always sent stuff like GM system on whether you wanted it or not.

Bryan