Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming.....

Posted by: Dnj

Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/22/19 09:36 AM

But I am not privileged to say anything at this time about it

sorry... wink
Posted by: Stephenm52

Re: Big Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/22/19 09:38 AM

Originally Posted By Dnj
But I am not privileged to say anything at this time about it wink


You’re going to meet TonyMads and I at Frank’s store on Tuesday grin
Posted by: Dnj

Re: Big Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/22/19 09:56 AM

Nice idea that's on my list for the future...
But Keep guessing Steve....
Posted by: DonM

Re: Big Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/22/19 10:32 AM

I think I know what it is, but I promised not to tell.
Posted by: jingleman

Re: Big Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/22/19 10:48 AM

Originally Posted By DonM
I think I know what it is, but I promised not to tell.

Don, are you takin’ the plunge? smile
Posted by: saxxman

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/22/19 11:27 AM

Hey guys - are we sure that the reveal may not just be the latest Yamaha news just becoming "official"... I'm talking about...

Just sayin'....
Posted by: Dnj

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/22/19 11:39 AM

The SX900 is NOT a Baby Genos....
that said....when the time comes the surprise will be revealed.
Posted by: rikkisbears

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/22/19 12:26 PM

Originally Posted By saxxman
Hey guys - are we sure that the reveal may not just be the latest Yamaha news just becoming "official"... I'm talking about...

Just sayin'....


Clever, Randy haha
Posted by: Harold123

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/22/19 12:44 PM

DNJ is packing the Genos up!...Harold
Posted by: Dnj

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/22/19 12:46 PM

Originally Posted By Harold123
DNJ is packing the Genos up!...Harold


No way Harold I am loving Genos...

keys
Posted by: travlin'easy

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/22/19 12:53 PM

I know but was sworn to secrecy under penalty of death. smile

Gary cool
Posted by: jingleman

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/22/19 01:27 PM

Originally Posted By saxxman
Hey guys - are we sure that the reveal may not just be the latest Yamaha news just becoming "official"... I'm talking about...

Just sayin'....

Nice pic Randy smile
Posted by: Uncle Dave

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/22/19 01:40 PM

Seems like a lot of you are in the "inner circle" ... not much of a secret, really! lol
Posted by: Uncle Dave

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/22/19 01:56 PM

Originally Posted By Dnj
The SX900 is NOT a Baby Genos....
that said....when the time comes the surprise will be revealed.


I think the SX900 is actually more of a "young adult" Genos. Trimmer, leaner, lots of the potential of it's much larger, family member. Not a step down, but rather, a step sideways for those of us who have no room, or need for the extra keys, and cherish the advantage of on board speakers to use in a professional setting that doesn't call for lots of amplification. "Baby" just isn't the right word for such an advanced instrument. Yes, the Genos has more bells and whistles, and some people need all that. I prefer to buy only the bells I'll actually use. It's not the best, if it's not the best for me, and right now - the SX is performing beautifully.
smile
Posted by: DonM

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/22/19 02:06 PM

What the hell, I'll tell you. I came across a "used" Genos at a price I couldn't refuse. Have to give it a try. So far so good. Sure is BIG though.
Posted by: Uncle Dave

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/22/19 02:10 PM

LOL - finally ... we'll get a professional opinion that I will trust! Go to it Obi-Wan ... I'd love to hear your thoughts.
Posted by: DonM

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/22/19 02:20 PM

I will "tell it like it is", or at least the way I see it. smile Need some time though.
Posted by: Gunnar Jonny

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/22/19 02:25 PM

Originally Posted By DonM
What the hell, I'll tell you. I came across a "used" Genos at a price I couldn't refuse. Have to give it a try. So far so good. Sure is BIG though.


surprised

👌 👍 🎵🎵🎵🎵
Posted by: tony mads usa

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/22/19 02:25 PM

Best of luck with it Don ...
keys
Posted by: Uncle Dave

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/22/19 02:33 PM

After playing my SX with the keys of a better controller (SV-1), I'm convinced that the "guts" of this thing is top quality. I've heard that the build quality and keybed on the Genos is highly upgraded, like the Tyros line, so that's where lots of that extra cost must be going. Glad to hear you snagged a deal, Don. Always love me some "Let's make a deal".
Posted by: rikkisbears

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/22/19 02:53 PM

Originally Posted By DonM
What the hell, I'll tell you. I came across a "used" Genos at a price I couldn't refuse. Have to give it a try. So far so good. Sure is BIG though.


Fantastic, congratulations. The keys not too heavy? or is it for home studio use?
Posted by: DonM

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/22/19 02:54 PM

No the keys are not nearly as heavy as the PA4X; they are a lot like the EA7 keys, but little more solid, with aftertouch of course.
Posted by: rikkisbears

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/22/19 03:40 PM

Originally Posted By DonM
No the keys are not nearly as heavy as the PA4X; they are a lot like the EA7 keys, but little more solid, with aftertouch of course.


Wow, that’s great. Look forward to hearing some recordings? We hope.

Does it have a lot of the country styles? I rescued quite a number from earlier model T’s ( though you probably have them anyway) they sound quite good on sx . So if of any use , let me know.
Posted by: saxxman

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/22/19 03:53 PM

Way to go Don! Congrats on the "Big Daddy" acquisition! You will enjoy it I am sure! Have fun and enjoy that TOTL!
Posted by: Dnj

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/22/19 03:54 PM

Don I tried to keep it a secret but you revealed much too soon
as you had it a while now anyway wink . To big?,..
should NOT be a problem because your set up and rarely move from Ernest's stage
& if so the EA7 backup should fit the bill nicely as a second.
many are misled by the "baby Genos" comment size.
Speakers are not the difference it's all about what is inside Genos vs sx900 that creates the sounds and styles.
That said anyone that doesn't trust my opinion so be it I really don't give a crap,
I have learned a lot of who is a friend last few weeks and for that alone
I refuse to share many things publicly anymore here on SZ vs privately,
...it's sad it had to come to that.
Don as a few others, myself included sent back the
SX900 for a reason (it is not a baby or sideways Genos)
and bought a real Genos is all I will say,
I will not comment more on that.
I had a whole Genos review started on my progress but stopped and deleted it
I don't need the ridicule I would rather enjoy playing this wonderful instrument.
That said Don knows full well how I feel about his Genos choice
and I wish him only good luck on stage.
I Know he is gonna kick some major country ass
this Holiday season for sure. cool2

Have fun.
Posted by: Uncle Dave

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/22/19 03:57 PM

Donny, Donny, Donny .... sigh.
Posted by: saxxman

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/22/19 03:57 PM

Originally Posted By Uncle Dave
Originally Posted By Dnj
The SX900 is NOT a Baby Genos....
that said....when the time comes the surprise will be revealed.


I think the SX900 is actually more of a "young adult" Genos. Trimmer, leaner, lots of the potential of it's much larger, family member. Not a step down, but rather, a step sideways for those of us who have no room, or need for the extra keys, and cherish the advantage of on board speakers to use in a professional setting that doesn't call for lots of amplification. "Baby" just isn't the right word for such an advanced instrument. Yes, the Genos has more bells and whistles, and some people need all that. I prefer to buy only the bells I'll actually use. It's not the best, if it's not the best for me, and right now - the SX is performing beautifully.
smile


Dave - Have to agree with you completely! To each his own... I am so happy with my "Chip off the Old Block" SX900 keyboard! TEE HEE HEE. Gives a whole new meaning to the phrase "So's your old man!" Ha Ha!

Congrats again Don on the "Mega Daddy" deal you got!
Posted by: Uncle Dave

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/22/19 04:06 PM

Don passed on this gem when he scored the deal on the Yamaha...
https://reverb.com/item/13050211-farmer-...m_source=google
(watch the video - it's hysterical!)
Posted by: rikkisbears

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/22/19 04:09 PM

Originally Posted By Uncle Dave
Donny, Donny, Donny .... sigh.


Ditto.

I don’t think anybody is suggesting the sx900 is a Genos with 61 keys.
There’s a hell of a lot of similarities, and most of us who kept them for more than 3 hours are quite happy with them.
Note I said most , not everyone.
Posted by: Dnj

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/22/19 04:23 PM

Rikki "quite happy" is one thing no one is arguing a persons choice and enjoyment here..
but to compare a unit that is superior price and technology wise
inside and out is another thing.
yet many because of the price difference tend to have to substantiate their choice. What ever people chose the genos or lessor sx900 is fine with me. Just understand there is a difference inside.

Take care
Posted by: rikkisbears

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/22/19 04:37 PM

Hi Donny,
Sorry, bit confused , what exactly is the superior technology?
Posted by: Uncle Dave

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/22/19 04:39 PM

superior means most money, right? OK.
Posted by: Dnj

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/22/19 04:40 PM

Originally Posted By rikkisbears
Hi Donny,
Sorry, bit confused , what exactly is the superior technology?


Rikki do you really think the inside sampling quality layers of the sounds is the same between the two units?
There is a reason for the price difference.

Tone Generating Technology Genos

AWM Stereo Sampling, AEM technology
Polyphony Number of Polyphony (Max.)
256 (max.) (128 for Preset Voice + 128 for Expansion Voice)
Preset Number of Voices
1,652 Voices + 58 Drum/SFX Kits
Featured Voices 10 Revo! Drums/SFX, 76 Ensemble, 390 Super Articulation!, 75 Super Articulation2!, 82 MegaVoice, 40 Sweet!,
81 Cool!, 160 Live!, 24 Organ Flutes!
Posted by: Stephenm52

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/22/19 04:50 PM

Originally Posted By DonM
What the hell, I'll tell you. I came across a "used" Genos at a price I couldn't refuse. Have to give it a try. So far so good. Sure is BIG though.


Sounds like a line out of the Godfather movie. Good luck and congrats with the Genos.
Posted by: bruno123

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/22/19 05:23 PM

I like, I enjoy, I love my Yamaha Sx900. Don’t anybody say anything about it, it would make me unhappy. I feel the same about my kids.

John C.
Posted by: tony mads usa

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/22/19 05:43 PM

stop stop stop stop
the BS bickering !!!

People buy what they WANT, NEED, WORKS FOR THEM, CAN AFFORD, WHATEVER ... NOTHING is perfect for everyone no matter who says what ...
Posted by: Fran Carango

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/22/19 06:26 PM

I have found when you find a keyboard that to you is the best.. you usually keep it for ten years.. smile


With this thought... let us see who has the same keyboard longer then the payment schedule. smile

It happened twice for me with arrangers.. 10 years G1000... 13 years and counting G70... And not to forget... 56 years and counting, my accordion grin
Posted by: travlin'easy

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/22/19 06:30 PM

Fran, I agree - when you find the one that fits, you tend to keep it for a decade or more - at least that has been my experience over the past 30 years. I sure got a lot of mileage out of my PSR-3000, then the S-950, which I still own. smile

All the best,

Gary cool
Posted by: rikkisbears

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/22/19 07:50 PM

Originally Posted By Fran Carango
I have found when you find a keyboard that to you is the best.. you usually keep it for ten years.. smile


With this thought... let us see who has the same keyboard longer then the payment schedule. smile

It happened twice for me with arrangers.. 10 years G1000... 13 years and counting G70... And not to forget... 56 years and counting, my accordion grin


Fran, you’re probably one of the sanest ones amongst us. Haha

Sorry, and Gary.
Posted by: tony mads usa

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/22/19 08:50 PM

My first AKB was the technics Kn1000 - pre Gen Midi - around 1992 (?) ... In 27 years I've had 4 ... Kn1000, Kn6000, KORG Pa600 (the least amount of time) KORG Pa900 ...
I've gotten more than my money's worth out of them...
Posted by: rikkisbears

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/22/19 09:15 PM

Originally Posted By tony mads usa
My first AKB was the technics Kn1000 - pre Gen Midi - around 1992 (?) ... In 27 years I've had 4 ... Kn1000, Kn6000, KORG Pa600 (the least amount of time) KORG Pa900 ...
I've gotten more than my money's worth out of them...


Whoops, sorry Tony

Add you to the list of the sane, amongst us.
Fran
Gary
Tony

Haha.
Posted by: Stephenm52

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/23/19 04:52 AM

Originally Posted By rikkisbears
Originally Posted By tony mads usa
My first AKB was the technics Kn1000 - pre Gen Midi - around 1992 (?) ... In 27 years I've had 4 ... Kn1000, Kn6000, KORG Pa600 (the least amount of time) KORG Pa900 ...
I've gotten more than my money's worth out of them...


Whoops, sorry Tony

Add you to the list of the sane, amongst us.
Fran
Gary
Tony

Haha.


Rikki, Yup Tony is one of the sane ones.
Posted by: tony mads usa

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/23/19 06:31 AM

Hmmmm ...
dancers confused2

But thanks, anyway ... wink
Posted by: Bachus

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/23/19 08:18 AM

Looking at posts and reactions in threads like this from a far is so funny

Anyway, for those that do not know yet, there is a 2 manual Genos just around the corner.
Posted by: W Tracy Parnell

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/23/19 08:30 AM

Originally Posted By Uncle Dave
Donny, Donny, Donny .... sigh.


+1.
Posted by: W Tracy Parnell

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/23/19 08:32 AM

Originally Posted By Fran Carango
I have found when you find a keyboard that to you is the best.. you usually keep it for ten years.. smile


With this thought... let us see who has the same keyboard longer then the payment schedule. smile

It happened twice for me with arrangers.. 10 years G1000... 13 years and counting G70... And not to forget... 56 years and counting, my accordion grin


So true.
Posted by: Dnj

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/23/19 08:34 AM

Originally Posted By Bachus
Looking at posts and reactions in threads like this from a far is so funny

Anyway, for those that do not know yet, there is a 2 manual Genos just around the corner.


Great news Bachus WOW didn't see that coming at all!!
Posted by: DonM

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/23/19 09:20 AM

. . . and it will have a coffee maker built in. smile
Posted by: Dnj

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/23/19 09:21 AM

Originally Posted By DonM
. . . and it will have a coffee maker built in. smile


rotf2
Posted by: leeboy

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/23/19 09:25 AM

You forgot me Rikki, I'm pretty sane, so far...Haha....

Where I used to go in Toledo,OH to buy Thomas Organs...the manager/friend of mine always told Everyone...
Listen to the Organ, not the Organist....because he/she does not come with it!....Unless you guys get along so well you get MARRIED!.....Haha.

Lee
Posted by: jingleman

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/23/19 10:24 AM

Originally Posted By DonM
What the hell, I'll tell you. I came across a "used" Genos at a price I couldn't refuse. Have to give it a try. So far so good. Sure is BIG though.
Posted by: ekurburski

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/23/19 11:30 AM

I've had ny 740 for 15 years. My 3000 belonged to Gary Diamond for over 10 years and no I've had it for two. The way things are going I expect I'll still be playing it 8 years from now if I'm still alive.
Posted by: saxxman

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/23/19 11:58 AM

Originally Posted By jingleman
Originally Posted By DonM
What the hell, I'll tell you. I came across a "used" Genos at a price I couldn't refuse. Have to give it a try. So far so good. Sure is BIG though.



Nice pic Mitch! Don looks right at home with the TOTL! Have fun Don and enjoy that great machine!
Posted by: rikkisbears

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/23/19 12:19 PM

Originally Posted By leeboy
You forgot me Rikki, I'm pretty sane, so far...Haha....

Where I used to go in Toledo,OH to buy Thomas Organs...the manager/friend of mine always told Everyone...
Listen to the Organ, not the Organist....because he/she does not come with it!....Unless you guys get along so well you get MARRIED!.....Haha.

Lee



Great point Lee, my Technics dealer was an excellent at demonstrating piano/ keyboard , after 5 keyboards and 2 pianos, and I still wondered why they didn’t sound the same at home as they did in the shop.
Shucks , I forgot to ask hubby if I could bring him home too. Haha
Posted by: Dnj

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/23/19 12:25 PM

Originally Posted By jingleman
Originally Posted By DonM
What the hell, I'll tell you. I came across a "used" Genos at a price I couldn't refuse. Have to give it a try. So far so good. Sure is BIG though.



Posted by: leeboy

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/23/19 04:42 PM

Hey Don...It'a only 10 in longer and 1 in wider than sx900.
just seems a lot larger doesn't it?
Lee
Posted by: Dnj

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/23/19 04:45 PM

Lee he loves it.... Just sayin
Posted by: gambler

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/23/19 06:34 PM

Originally Posted By Dnj
Originally Posted By DonM
. . . and it will have a coffee maker built in. smile


rotf2


Will it do the frothy milk too Don? grin
Posted by: leeboy

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/23/19 07:06 PM

I'm glad he does....and IMHO it is a super arranger.....
Lee
Posted by: Dnj

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/24/19 08:57 AM

Originally Posted By leeboy
I'm glad he does....and IMHO it is a super arranger.....
Lee


Indeed it is Lee...
I have a smile on my face every time I sit down and play it.

keys
Posted by: Impuls

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/24/19 09:08 AM

The last few weeks I am surprised that many people are positive about the Yamaha Genos. When I look at the messages about the Genos from 2 years ago here on Synthzone, I see that people were generally very negative in general. I am happy and surprised that now there is a sort of "revival" and appreciation for this instrument.

Impuls cool
Posted by: Dnj

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/24/19 09:34 AM

Impuls it takes time to reduce the competition and make sure it fill your needs. The new v2.0 was a big plus also. I was certainly skeptical at first but glad I waited made sure the sx900 wasn't a
"baby Genos",..and tried all that was out there to be sure.
I am having a blast setting it up...
just finished my 3rd Reg song bank with 30 songs many using the replacement NEW Genos version of the same styles/sounds etc,.. too. Many more banks to go & beyond.
Posted by: DonM

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/24/19 09:37 AM

I didn't say I love it. Jury is still out. I do like the controls, feel, styles and sounds. But the only thing I didn't have on PA4X was the lighter key feel.
This thing is LOOOONG.
I am in the process of creating all new Registrations, using my old ones as a model. Almost every style can be changed or updated to sound better than on previous Yamahas, except maybe the SX900. It's styles were also updated a lot.
The Audio styles are still my favorites. Wish there were more.
So far I've only heard it through headphones and the Logitech system in my office/studio.
Maybe today I'll set up the real P.A. system. I hope to use the Genos on the job by next weekend. That will be the real test.
Posted by: Impuls

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/24/19 10:52 AM

Originally Posted By Dnj

just finished my 3rd Reg song bank with 30 songs many using the replacement NEW Genos version of the same styles/sounds etc,.. too. Many more banks to go & beyond.


I find it more easy to make for each song a seperate Registration , much easyer to search and overlook , and its the way for using and store it in the Playlist .
Have now made approx 800 registrations in the past 2 years on the genos

I smirk
Posted by: Dnj

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/24/19 10:56 AM

Me too.. 1 song per reg
Posted by: rikkisbears

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/24/19 11:41 AM

Originally Posted By DonM
I
I am in the process of creating all new Registrations, using my old ones as a model. Almost every style can be changed or updated to sound better than on previous Yamahas, except maybe the SX900. It's styles were also updated a lot.


Hi Don,
I think I understood you correctly , ( except in my case vice versa) I found when I was putting my style library together, most of the previous styles going back to T3, sounded really good on sx, except for the Genos, thought it might have been due to missing voices or effects , whatever.
interesting that sx styles don’t sound that great on Genos.
Fortunately they have a large number of styles in common.
Posted by: Impuls

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/25/19 04:38 AM

Maybe this video helps >>

https://youtu.be/03f_StCMZ8E?t=1486

Impuls smile
Posted by: rikkisbears

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/25/19 11:54 AM

Thank you Impulse,
I’ll check it out shortly.
Posted by: rikkisbears

Re: Big Genos Surprise Reveal Coming..... - 11/25/19 06:20 PM

Originally Posted By Impuls
Maybe this video helps >>

https://youtu.be/03f_StCMZ8E?t=1486

Impuls smile


Thank you,
it’s a great site, I like their software.

Some of those tips are very handy.
Thank you