Separate PARTS EQ on a S670?

Is there separate PARTS EQ on a S670?

or just master parts eq?

I know I had this feature on S970 etc..

I believe you are the only one here who has an S670. Did you look in the manual?

manual???...whats that? lol

As far as I know it should have the same features.
However the lay out of the menu is a little different which means how you access things will be a little different. ...
Eric

I'm still looking Eric....?

Manuals can be such a pain. Keep at it, Big Fella... we're in your corner!

Donny, to my knowledge, there is no separate EQ systems other than the vocal processor (Mic) EQ system, and the Global EQ system. However, while you are working at redoing those registrations, you CAN change the effects, including the EQ, on voices associated with the registration and save those changes so they are recalled when the registration is called up.

Now, you can change the EQ of style parts using the onboard Style Creator, then rename the style to a User Style and save it in the Expansion/User Style area or the USB drive. It's all fairly easy to accomplish, but it does take a bit of time and effort.

Gary

I don't have a 670.
Just saw things on YouTube.
I guess back to the manual.
I usually download them for quicker reference. ...
Good luck
Eric

That's the fastest and easiest ways to go through the Manuals, Eric.

Gary

I don't see it...?

Page 87 of the Owner Manual

Gary it only talks about the MEQ ( entire sound)
NOT separate PARTS EQ

That's because you cannot edit the EQ of the style parts or voices separately.

That's what I thought Gary after searching and knowing the
Yamaha S-series units, etc, OS for years ...
cut backs in different models have to be made somewhere.
no biggie there are other workarounds when needed & most of my styles were customized on all my S units long ago..
That said I gotta say the S670 is the best bang for the buck
in an arranger KB. There is so much S970 inside that makes it a super efficient keyboard for sure...who knew?

Nothing touches Roland's "Make up" tools

No reason at any price that you should not be able to apply individual eq to parts of a style.

I think I would re think the bang for the buck, there are many other options. Still this is all you need for a "bedroom" player

at least there is a "BREAK" Button....just sayin'

Absolutely no need for a break button. The Break on newer Roland's are silence (useless). The best way to solve the break issue on Roland keyboards that have D' beam.. Set the D-beam control to mute all but drums, now you can have a break and use fills to any length you want. D-beam will bring it to full backing again.. This break gives you 4 variations and 6 fills on a BK9/G70.. The only better break is Ketron (SD7) with audio drums added. "Just sayin"

The break button on Yamaha arrangers does a lot more than just mute parts.
I am with Donny on that one.
I use it all the time
Eric

Intro one on the EA7 can often be used for breaks. You have to time it. The intros have been redone on it, I suppose for this feature.
Still I prefer the way all the other brands handle breaks.
One the PA4X, I assign Break/fill to pedal 6 on the foot controller, then intro 3, the short one, to pedal 5. It's often they can be used in sequence for some great breaks.
On the EA7, I assign intro one to the assignable foot switch. Without using the pedals it can sometimes be confusing to remember that the intensities of the intros are reversed between the two models.
On many of the Korg songstyles, and on some internal styles, the intros one and two offer custom riffs to fit songs.
And, a lot of times, after converting midi files to styles on the Korg, the intros are very useful for that same reason.
Woops this has nothing to do with e.q. on style parts. Sorry DNJ, but I took all that time to write this so will leave it.

Eric, what else does the Yamaha break give you that you can't duplicate with the method I mentioned?

You can also select one or more of the 6 fills and write a break, maybe a turn around or bass lead into another chord change. Unlimited possibilities and making it your own,

Thats ok Don....all good points of interest....
the BREAK button is essential for sure.

At least the EA7 HAS a break button, but it's just a bar of silence. I'm sure if one wanted to spend the time, he could take all the styles he uses, edit the break and save as User style, but that's a lot of trouble.

Don as many players here have said they use 8-20 styles max.. So that is not a big editing job to personalize your styles..

Yes, maybe find two or three breaks that are useful, then copy and paste to the rest. I assume the EA7 has that capability, but I haven't looked as I find myself mostly using the Korg, and reserving the Roland for backup or extra jobs, which are rare.

It does all kinds of things depending on the style.
Especially Song specific styles.
From short phrases to to drum fills to ...
Yes it can all be programmed. But wait I don't have to, because I have a break button
Eric

Just a side note... Don's EA7 has 6 pads and 7 assignable buttons that can be used for many break purposes .. that is 13 options for breaks and of course that single "break " button, the useless silence

None of my comments are "mine is better then yours". They are suggestions to resolve a break issue on Roland boards and make some folks think about style edits that they never thought of before..

Hmmm, I know why you bought another keyboard.

To keep your mind busy so you don’t go nuts --- and what is happening in this post.

I like it, John C.

I didn't think they were.
Just poking you a little since I know how much you like Roland arrangers ...
All arrangers have there strength and their flaws.
None are perfect.
As long as I can find work arounds I am happy.
Most arrangers let us do this with the tools provided.
You certainly mastered that for Roland.
In addition it's all about what we need ...
Thank good each of us is different. Otherwise we would have nothing to discuss on this forum.
Eric

Donny why are you messing with the S670 at all? The S975 blanket dominates the models further down in the line. Considering the difference in street price and all the benefits, anything further down in the Yamaha food chain is going to be a disappointment as you look for features you're accustomed to in your previous Yamahas and other brands.

Ted the S670 is more then meets the eyes sound and style wise, not much different than the other S series out there in that respect, ...... don't let the price fool you .. it's more than capable for my needs...
All else is outboard gear.

The S670 is a fantastic arranger keyboard, and it will fit the needs of nearly every arranger keyboard player I know other than Fran. If you were to spray paint the work Roland on it, Fran would have bought one when they first came out and been raving about the break button, which does a lot more than add a bit of silence. And, you can fill to break, which is a neat feature with Yamaha boards - all of them. Same with the style fill, you can fill to self, a feature I have used many times in the past with some 60s 70s rock and roll songs.

Those of you that took the time to listen to some of the songs my Argentinean friend Walter created on his S670 know exactly what I'm talking about. Walter has produced some incredible music with his S670, most of which is movie studio quality.

Enjoy that keyboard, Donny,

Gary

Thanx Gary great post

Gary there have been Roland keyboards I give negative comments about... I will try most any brand keyboard and move on from them when they don't fit me.... even Roland.

Now about that break button... I can't think of any other feature I would ignore more than a break button

The last 15 years I hardly ever use styles, especially on the job. So "Breaks" are useless to me.

Now if I painted Yamaha on the back of my G70..... I would definitely rave about the keyboard, and not some silly button.

Your buddy does make the s670 sound good on most of his tunes.... but not all.. Some sounds are not stellar, and the results show..

There are differences in sound as you move up to better models.. anyone knows that

Donny how are you getting around on the keyboard with cursors so far from the view screen... It seems like that takes some effort to get use to..

Fran I have to say I like the cursor buttons better right at fingertip level above the keys for easy access versus on the sides of the display like the others have giving you much more easy access while playing live.... not only that, the s670 has much better quality built buttons all around then the S970 had.

Hello Friends

In teh PSR S670 there is a button Mixer in the left side, if you keep pressing it, it will cycle different pages, the first one is Volume Panning, I can´t remember but is either the second or third page that has the EQ for Each part, like I said, with the TAB you can change the page, but with the Mixer if keep pressing it, each time will get you to Panel, to Style parts, Song Parts, etc....

My Two Cents

Manuel

Yes except the s670.... Only master eq

Donny, Manual has it right. You can adjust the EQ of each style part, but it must be saved to a registration.

Just press the mixing console button, then using the tab button tab over to EQ. Now, continue to press the mixing console button until you see Part EQ in the middle of the page. This will allow you to set the EQ for each segment of the style.

Gary

OK I'll look into this again closer Thanx..

I Looked at the manual closely.
It says only Master EQ ...
Eric

It's one of those things that is not in the manual, Eric. If it is, it is not spelled out clearly, which is nothing unusual.

Gary

Thanks Gary
Hopefully Donny can sort it all out ...
Eric

Eric I have tried all features witin the mixer and you are correct as presumed earlier the "Parts EQ" is not available on the S670 just Global,....I guess they had to cut back on a few things and that is one of them, ....no big deal there are other workarounds to adjust sounds.
other then that the S670 sounds terriffic.

I found it on my S-950 but I didn't find it in the Manual - I discovered it by mistake. I'm assuming the 670 had the same OS.

Gary

Gary yes on all my Yamaha Psr/S units/Tyros etc, it's available
I am well versed in the editing dept but not on the S670.

Ok after digging deeper into the OS I have found that unlike the
S970/S770 series units that have a dedicated page for separate EQ of part when you keep pushing the Mixer button to get to that page ......because it's missing on the S670 instead you have to tab over to the FILTER page and here by using the "HARMONIC Content" & "BRIGHTNESS" adjustments you can pretty much EQ "each part" in the style or sound to your EQ liking...who knew?

"who knew" ?!? ...
The guy who kept digging deeper and found out how to do it, that's who ... good job, Donny ...