Buying new iPad

Posted by: Bernie9

Buying new iPad - 12/20/18 04:54 AM

My 8 yr old iPad has older system and 16GB about used up. Rather than clean out unused apps, I opted for the latest on sale at Amazon, 9.7, 32GB. Before it arrives, I have to decide what to do with the old one that has my sheet music, MP3s etc. What I have on it works fine, and am tempted to leave it alone and start with some newer music apps on the new. or transfer some.

I don't want to waste the new capacity with redundant data, but wonder if having two will cause confusion with iTunes when it comes to uploading material. What have some of you done?
Posted by: Stephenm52

Re: Buying new iPad - 12/20/18 05:25 AM

I keep my old iPad as a back up. Apple has made it simple to make a clone of your old ipad. When firing up the new iPad chosse the copy from old iPad , it will then walk you thru a procedure using your new iPad’s camera to copy the moving circle on the old iPad. From there the devices take over and you just can sit back and wait for the copy to complete.

This link at iMore provides more info:

https://www.imore.com/how-transfer-data-old-ipad-new-ipad
Posted by: Riceroni9

Re: Buying new iPad - 12/20/18 05:45 AM

I have an iPad with 16 GB and it is now relegated to being used for taking photos, playing solitaire and chess. My words of warning to you, Bernie... be sure to write down all the security questions they ask you, remember your new user ID and password by hiding them away somewhere you can find them. If you change internet service providers... you will be in for a "merry go round" of mind numbing stupidity from Apple regarding security.

They automatically assume your iPad has been stolen and their system is not set up to deal with humans. Most of their hired hands are offshore and really enjoy putting the screws to Americans. If I can't get these idiots to come to their senses soon, I will "jailbreak" my iPad (it does belong to me, after all) and install another operating system on it.

If you surmise that I am angry with them... it would be a correct assumption! LOL!

Good luck with the new gear. ----Dave
Posted by: Dnj

Re: Buying new iPad - 12/20/18 06:38 AM

I just heard on tv ipads getting called back due to BENT housings buyer beware..

https://www.news.com.au/technology/gadge...3eeddc45c0ce44c
Posted by: Bernie9

Re: Buying new iPad - 12/20/18 07:11 AM

Luckily, I didn't go for the Pro model.
Posted by: Stephenm52

Re: Buying new iPad - 12/20/18 08:44 AM

No bent issues on my iPad Pro got it about 6 weeks ago and no issues.
Posted by: Bachus

Re: Buying new iPad - 12/20/18 10:21 AM

Originally Posted By Bernie9
My 8 yr old iPad has older system and 16GB about used up. Rather than clean out unused apps, I opted for the latest on sale at Amazon, 9.7, 32GB. Before it arrives, I have to decide what to do with the old one that has my sheet music, MP3s etc. What I have on it works fine, and am tempted to leave it alone and start with some newer music apps on the new. or transfer some.

I don't want to waste the new capacity with redundant data, but wonder if having two will cause confusion with iTunes when it comes to uploading material. What have some of you done?


If you really want to dive into music apps, 32 GB might be not enough...

You can have many apple devices on a single account, and all sync them with the same data..
Posted by: Bernie9

Re: Buying new iPad - 12/20/18 11:13 AM

Bachus:If you really want to dive into music apps, 32 GB might be not enough

Thanks, Bachus, but I am a newbe who, realistically will not, anywhere near, approach your involvement anytime soon. To go for a 64gb or a Pro would have meant too much money for a pipe dream. If I run out of capacity, that will tell me to get a big boy iPad.

For the time being, I would appreciate some advice along the way. I am thinking of using the new one for new apps, and leaving my old on as is.
Posted by: Bachus

Re: Buying new iPad - 12/20/18 11:36 AM

Originally Posted By Bernie9
Bachus:If you really want to dive into music apps, 32 GB might be not enough

Thanks, Bachus, but I am a newbe who, realistically will not, anywhere near, approach your involvement anytime soon. To go for a 64gb or a Pro would have meant too much money for a pipe dream. If I run out of capacity, that will tell me to get a big boy iPad.

For the time being, I would appreciate some advice along the way. I am thinking of using the new one for new apps, and leaving my old on as is.


Just throw in the questions, and i will see to answer them..
Starting fresh could be a good idea..

Just make sure you switch software sync off between the 2 devices, or everything you install on the new device will also end up on the old device... by default i believe this is switched on..
Posted by: Bernie9

Re: Buying new iPad - 12/20/18 01:40 PM

very valuable info, and thanks for the help offer.
Bernie
Posted by: jingleman

Re: Buying new iPad - 12/20/18 06:22 PM

I’ve got 2 iPads. Don’t think l’ll be upgrading anymore with iPads. Bought a Dell 3000 2 in 1 11.6 screen running Windows 10. It has a 500gb hard drive and 8gb ddr4 ram. Runs as a tablet or laptop and can run all my daw software. Bought at Office Depot for $229. All of this in a small easy to use package.

Pretty pleased so far.

jingleman
Posted by: Bachus

Re: Buying new iPad - 12/21/18 01:08 AM

Originally Posted By jingleman
I’ve got 2 iPads. Don’t think l’ll be upgrading anymore with iPads. Bought a Dell 3000 2 in 1 11.6 screen running Windows 10. It has a 500gb hard drive and 8gb ddr4 ram. Runs as a tablet or laptop and can run all my daw software. Bought at Office Depot for $229. All of this in a small easy to use package.

Pretty pleased so far.

jingleman


As long as you dont want/need all the creativity tools the ipad houses for creating and performing... a windows hybris is a better choice..

It runs daw, vst, all yamaha community tools, sheetreader...

The ipad offers to me a whole different more creative alternative, its espescially a lot of fun to me..
Posted by: Bernie9

Re: Buying new iPad - 12/21/18 01:46 AM

"The ipad offers to me a whole different more creative alternative, its espescially a lot of fun to me.."
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At present, I have sound source apps like iRig, Korg Module, Sensual Sax, and Galileo, plus Karaoke HD and UnRealbook. Since these are not productive or creative apps, it would be interesting to know what you find fun using iPad.

I have a love/hate relationship with iPads. I love the stability,but hate the awkward process of uploading, even though I somewhat understand the concept of iTunes. The main reason I am sticking with them is that the bulk of new and existing apps are written for this platform.
Posted by: bruno123

Re: Buying new iPad - 12/21/18 03:03 AM

Like Bernie, I have a love hate for my iPad. They have too much control over what I am doing.
John C.
Posted by: Bernie9

Re: Buying new iPad - 12/21/18 03:29 AM

If you can't beat em---
It seems to me that you have to start with an interface. My old Muse Receptor had some of these elements or scenes to assemble a song from many different sources. It is in beta now, but looks promising.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFKqMhRRORA
$19 ios
Posted by: jingleman

Re: Buying new iPad - 12/21/18 03:39 AM

Originally Posted By bruno123
Like Bernie, I have a love hate for my iPad. They have too much control over what I am doing.
John C.


If I were to do Apple again, it would have to be a MacBook. Price for those is ridiculous. The Dell gives you HDMI, USB 3, USB 2, which allows for USB mic recording, and audio interface connection. For $229...can't beat it!

jingleman
Posted by: Stephenm52

Re: Buying new iPad - 12/21/18 03:53 AM

Originally Posted By jingleman
Originally Posted By bruno123
Like Bernie, I have a love hate for my iPad. They have too much control over what I am doing.
John C.


If I were to do Apple again, it would have to be a MacBook. Price for those is ridiculous. The Dell gives you HDMI, USB 3, USB 2, which allows for USB mic recording, and audio interface connection. For $229...can't beat it!

jingleman


Apple pricing has gotten out of hand it's all for their bottom line. 10 years ago I bought a refurbished MacBook Pro for just over $1000 it's still running although I did replace the battery and added an SSD to it. That same laptop today would cost $2500 maybe $2300 as a refurb.

On the flip side of things a few SZ members purchased a Pro12 Android tablet with a detachable keyboard for less than $200 and it does a great job syncing with the Korg Songbook for lead sheets.
Posted by: Bernie9

Re: Buying new iPad - 12/21/18 04:05 AM

It is not an Ipad pro, but the latest model 9.7in with 32gb for $229 at Amazon ain't bad.
Posted by: Dnj

Re: Buying new iPad - 12/21/18 07:49 AM

Quote:
Apple pricing has gotten out of hand it's all for their bottom line. 10 years ago I bought a refurbished MacBook Pro for just over $1000 it's still running although I did replace the battery and added an SSD to it. That same laptop today would cost $2500 maybe $2300 as a refurb.

On the flip side of things a few SZ members purchased a Pro12 Android tablet with a detachable keyboard for less than $200 and it does a great job syncing with the Korg Songbook for lead sheets.


wink
Posted by: Bachus

Re: Buying new iPad - 12/21/18 09:23 AM

Originally Posted By Bernie9
"The ipad offers to me a whole different more creative alternative, its espescially a lot of fun to me.."
_________________________
At present, I have sound source apps like iRig, Korg Module, Sensual Sax, and Galileo, plus Karaoke HD and UnRealbook. Since these are not productive or creative apps, it would be interesting to know what you find fun using iPad.

I have a love/hate relationship with iPads. I love the stability,but hate the awkward process of uploading, even though I somewhat understand the concept of iTunes. The main reason I am sticking with them is that the bulk of new and existing apps are written for this platform.


Just start out with audiobus 3 and midiflow
Thats the base of all the fun..
It connects your keyboard to multiple apps and soundsources at once



From there you start building..
With for example beatmaker 3 for creating backings
Cubasis for recording
And korg gadget for a huge amount of little soundmodules..

And there is more, like dsp effects, arpegiators..
everything is available on ipad except a good arranger
And audiobus turns all those lovely things into one big soundmachine

Its effectively a midi and audiorouter..
Wish there was a simple app like this for macosx or windows..
But there isnt..
Posted by: hammer

Re: Buying new iPad - 12/21/18 11:00 AM

Bernie,
I bought the iPad pro(the large one) when it first came out and have not had a single regret. I use it only for my gig PDF lead sheets. I have not looked at the current versions of the iPad pro.

I use two programs for reading the PDFs. One is UnRealBook and the other is GoodReader. Both do a wonderful job but I have found I like UnRealBook the best.

For my backups I use a program called Imazing. There version I use is free but you can upgrade it if you need or want the added features.

FYI: I now have the Ketron SD40 and am using a 49 key M-Audio controller with it. I like it a lot and it is very reliable. I got the one with nothing on it but what the factory puts on it.

Deane
Posted by: Dnj

Re: Buying new iPad - 12/21/18 11:16 AM

Originally Posted By hammer
Bernie,
I bought the iPad pro(the large one) when it first came out and have not had a single regret. I use it only for my gig PDF lead sheets. I have not looked at the current versions of the iPad pro.

I use two programs for reading the PDFs. One is UnRealBook and the other is GoodReader. Both do a wonderful job but I have found I like UnRealBook the best.

For my backups I use a program called Imazing. There version I use is free but you can upgrade it if you need or want the added features.

FYI: I now have the Ketron SD40 and am using a 49 key M-Audio controller with it. I like it a lot and it is very reliable. I got the one with nothing on it but what the factory puts on it.

Deane


Hi Dean any new gig videos using your new Ketron SD40 and am using a 49 key M-Audio controller with it? thanx
Posted by: Bernie9

Re: Buying new iPad - 12/21/18 11:55 AM

Hi Deane
I am currently using UnRealbook for my lead sheets on my old Ipad with no problems at all, and use Mobilsheets Pro in my Pro 12 Android, so I will leave these as is. I have M-Audio 61, Novation 61 SL MKII, and Behringer UMA25 for controllers, but favor my Hammond SK1 for use with the SD40. I am happy you are getting on with your SD40.

I have not heard of Imazing, will check it out.
Posted by: hammer

Re: Buying new iPad - 12/21/18 08:37 PM

Donny,
I will be using my new SD40 for gigs after Christmas. Right now I am using my Yamaha S975 for all my Christmas gigs. I will video one of my SD40 gigs.

Deane
Posted by: Bernie9

Re: Buying new iPad - 12/22/18 12:57 AM

Quote from Deane: "For my backups I use a program called Imazing"

It looks good if you can easily upload files from your pc without iTunes, as it says. Does it?
Posted by: hammer

Re: Buying new iPad - 12/22/18 10:58 AM

Yes Bernie,
It works just like it says.

Deane
Posted by: Bernie9

Re: Buying new iPad - 12/22/18 11:58 AM

Imazing
Posted by: Bachus

Re: Buying new iPad - 12/22/18 12:21 PM

Originally Posted By Bernie9
Quote from Deane: "For my backups I use a program called Imazing"

It looks good if you can easily upload files from your pc without iTunes, as it says. Does it?


Having updates on a pc is getting old..
Having updates in the cloud accesible everywhere is the answer

And if your house burns down, you still have your data saved in the cloud..
Posted by: Bernie9

Re: Buying new iPad - 12/23/18 01:50 AM

A valid point as far as backup is concerned, but I am looking at Audiobus 3,Camelot Pro, and Imazing. I am trying to be careful of duplication and wasting limited iPad capacity.
Posted by: Bachus

Re: Buying new iPad - 12/23/18 02:25 AM

Originally Posted By Bernie9
A valid point as far as backup is concerned, but I am looking at Audiobus 3,Camelot Pro, and Imazing. I am trying to be careful of duplication and wasting limited iPad capacity.


Camelot pro, offers the same as audiobus with midiflow..
Audiobus offers much much more, but is less straightforward..

Camelot pro only supports au units... and not the dsp ones
Audiobus also allows the connection of daws to eachother

In my vision, if you have audiobus, you dont need camelot pro
Unless you aim of integrating your ipad with a pc/mac daw.. and another camelot pro client on them.. or if you have hardware specifically supported by camelot.. which currently only supports synthesizers and high end workstations
Posted by: Bernie9

Re: Buying new iPad - 12/23/18 03:22 AM

Thanks, I will just stick with your choice. Audiobus may not be as straightforward, but I will just have to try and learn it. I am on their forum.
Posted by: Bernie9

Re: Buying new iPad - 12/30/18 07:45 AM

I have Audobus on IOS and Gig Performer in PC. I am working on getting Kontakt VST in GP. My question is some way to utilize my EastWest Colossus that was installed on my old Muse Receptor(gone). It seems a shame that some use can't be made of an expensive sample library like this.

Bernie
Posted by: Bachus

Re: Buying new iPad - 12/30/18 12:59 PM

Originally Posted By Bernie9
I have Audobus on IOS and Gig Performer in PC. I am working on getting Kontakt VST in GP. My question is some way to utilize my EastWest Colossus that was installed on my old Muse Receptor(gone). It seems a shame that some use can't be made of an expensive sample library like this.

Bernie


If you have a key to the software
And an account at east west

Contact them and ask them

Collosus works as a vst in any pc or mac
Posted by: Bernie9

Re: Buying new iPad - 12/30/18 01:38 PM

Thanks Bachus
Posted by: Bernie9

Re: Buying new iPad - 01/01/19 12:51 AM

Soundsonline, who is handling EW support, suggested a $99 crossgrade to Goliath in the Play 6 wrapper, available for instant download. What do you think? I read Play 6 eliminated some of the problems of previous versions. I could use this just for a rompler if not with Gig Performer.
Bernie
Posted by: Bachus

Re: Buying new iPad - 01/01/19 01:52 AM

Originally Posted By Bernie9
Soundsonline, who is handling EW support, suggested a $99 crossgrade to Goliath in the Play 6 wrapper, available for instant download. What do you think? I read Play 6 eliminated some of the problems of previous versions. I could use this just for a rompler if not with Gig Performer.
Bernie


Sounds like a good idea, if thats the only way to get it working..
Posted by: Bernie9

Re: Buying new iPad - 01/01/19 07:54 AM

Since I have only 80gb available, how about downloading to SD or flash drive. I could get a 7200 SSD, but I guess I would have a bottleneck with my i7 5400 HD. For my needs, I wouldn't think it necessary, but what do I know.
Posted by: Bachus

Re: Buying new iPad - 01/01/19 10:17 AM

Originally Posted By Bernie9
Since I have only 80gb available, how about downloading to SD or flash drive. I could get a 7200 SSD, but I guess I would have a bottleneck with my i7 5400 HD. For my needs, I wouldn't think it necessary, but what do I know.


An external SSD works well for sample libraries..
Stay away from 7200 HD’s go for a real SSD
And only keep the programs on your main drive..
Posted by: Bernie9

Re: Buying new iPad - 01/01/19 11:13 AM

Thanks