cutest GOOD bass player I've seen.

Posted by: Uncle Dave

cutest GOOD bass player I've seen. - 11/16/17 07:56 AM

https://youtu.be/fg2BS7H_dAU

Just because she LOVES playing. Wish I knew what she was laughing at!
Posted by: cgiles

Re: cutest GOOD bass player I've seen. - 11/16/17 08:17 AM

Okay, calm down Roy Moore....I mean, Uncle Dave smile smile. Yeah, she's got that sense of rhythm that's missing in so many people. Dave, you've been involved in music education a long time; do you think that's an 'innate' thing or can it be learned? I lean towards the former (probably one component of so-called 'musical talent').

chas
Posted by: travlin'easy

Re: cutest GOOD bass player I've seen. - 11/16/17 08:53 AM

Posted by: captain Russ

Re: cutest GOOD bass player I've seen. - 11/16/17 09:31 AM

Tai is the BOMB! I've seen her at NAMM several times!

R.
Posted by: Uncle Dave

Re: cutest GOOD bass player I've seen. - 11/16/17 11:40 AM

Originally Posted By travlin'easy

I've seen her - she's great ... but where's the cute factor??? Where's the smiles!!!!
Posted by: Uncle Dave

Re: cutest GOOD bass player I've seen. - 11/16/17 11:48 AM

Originally Posted By cgiles
do you think that's an 'innate' thing or can it be learned?

Chas, my experience in education has taught me that there are "lightbulb" moments in all areas of learning. Remember the drummer in "Mr Holland's Opus" who finally learned to FEEL the beat? People "get it" at different times. (or never) I think everyone can get to a point that's on a higher level, with proper training, and practice, but I agree with you ... the innate "feel" is hard, if not impossible to teach. Some untrained musicians just have it, and some well trained musicians will never have it. I think an audience reacts to the players energy, and as an audience member (in this case) I can feel her happy place when she plays, and I'm grateful for it. It doesn't hut that she's adorable, but the happy factor would show through even if she were not.

I've been blessed to have several dozen "lightbulb" moments with students over the years, and some have brought me to tears. I taught a 7th grader to play a guitar, who had never held one, and now he out plays me. He's a natural, and his hands are built to be wrapped around the neck of a guitar. He's one of my favorite graduates, and favorite humans, too.

Great question. Anyone else care to weigh in? Feel vs. technique ... does written music even HAVE any feel?
and ...... GO!
Posted by: travlin'easy

Re: cutest GOOD bass player I've seen. - 11/16/17 01:20 PM

Dave, I agree 100 percent. She seems to be loving every moment of the performance. She has that wow factor going for her, and unlike many of the trained musicians I've seen, she feels the rhythm. Many of the trained musicians I've encountered play very accurate chords and notes, but their music tends to be quite stilted, IMO.

All the best,

Gary cool
Posted by: captain Russ

Re: cutest GOOD bass player I've seen. - 11/16/17 01:41 PM

Victor Wooten smiles a lot, and he's kind of cute...does that count? Tai was really concentrating on a far more difficult passage, with lots of improvisation. Believe me, in person, she's really cute, sweet and a monster on bass.

The other girl is very good, but not nearly as advanced. The Wooten cover she did was note for note. Nothing wrong with that, but I can play it, and do often.

R.
Posted by: captain Russ

Re: cutest GOOD bass player I've seen. - 11/16/17 01:54 PM

Dave, other than your questionable taste in women (just joking!), you nailed it on creativity, benchmark moments and the pure joy in being part of the moment a player "gets it".

I.too have known Masters and above level music graduates who just couldn't swing. I knew one who couldn't even count very well.

Look at Leonid and friends. Those Russian dudes can really swing, and all horn section players were reading charts.

I appreciate your dedication to good music and kids.

Oh, and all your Kentucky ladies say they put a little bit of their SS checks back each month to help pay that massive Starbucks bill you skipped out on.


Be well,


Russ
Posted by: cgiles

Re: cutest GOOD bass player I've seen. - 11/16/17 02:01 PM

I was just checking this one out. She appears to be a little older????....but still kicking butt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZTxeeDyk1A

chas
Posted by: travlin'easy

Re: cutest GOOD bass player I've seen. - 11/16/17 02:03 PM

Good find, Chas. That gal can really swing!

Gary cool
Posted by: travlin'easy

Re: cutest GOOD bass player I've seen. - 11/16/17 02:08 PM

You might enjoy this one as well.



Enjoy,

Gary cool
Posted by: captain Russ

Re: cutest GOOD bass player I've seen. - 11/16/17 02:12 PM

OK, ya got me with Jamiroquai...LOVE THAT GROOVE, and this young lady NAILED IT!.

Chas is right, she looks a little older, and plays significantly better!

Russ
Posted by: Uncle Dave

Re: cutest GOOD bass player I've seen. - 11/17/17 06:44 AM

Originally Posted By captain Russ
OK, ya got me with Jamiroquai...LOVE THAT GROOVE, and this young lady NAILED IT!.

Chas is right, she looks a little older, and plays significantly better!

Russ


Yup - I'm all over that stuff! LOVE those guys! I even love the name of the band. (not going to try to spell it)
Posted by: montunoman

Re: cutest GOOD bass player I've seen. - 11/17/17 08:48 AM

The ability to swing or groove is a natural talent but I think the environment which one grows up in plays a huge factor. Just imagine if you were adopted as an infant by the Marsalis family. Having parents that were master musicians, a healthy musical sibling rivalry, and growing in musically rich community like New Orleans would greatly affect your groove. Sure, you wouldn’t the Marsalis “talent” genes but growing up in that kind environment sure wouldn’t hurt.
Posted by: cgiles

Re: cutest GOOD bass player I've seen. - 11/17/17 01:01 PM

Originally Posted By montunoman
The ability to swing or groove is a natural talent but I think the environment which one grows up in plays a huge factor. Just imagine if you were adopted as an infant by the Marsalis family. Having parents that were master musicians, a healthy musical sibling rivalry, and growing in musically rich community like New Orleans would greatly affect your groove. Sure, you wouldn’t the Marsalis “talent” genes but growing up in that kind environment sure wouldn’t hurt.


I think you're right. Growing up in a musical environment where 'groove' ie. 'syncopated rhythms' is an integral (and common) part of the dominant music scene, is definately going to give you a leg up on playing certain types of music. I think this exists in predominately Black communities with it's heavy influences of Gospel, R&B, Blues, Rap, etc. I think it also exists in Latino communities, as some of the tightest, most rhythmic music I've ever heard were from groups like Santana which has always had the best rhythm section on the planet (even if it was augmented by the great Chester Thompson smile ). Even so, environment or not, when it's that good, as Montunoman says, some of it has got to be in the genes.

Disclaimer: You don't HAVE to be Black or Latino to have that 'grove gene'. There are millions of exceptions; this young lady is one of them. Interesting that she has chosen this genre' of music to display her talents (as opposed to say, Rock - although I'm sure she'd be 'killer' in any genre'.).

chas
Posted by: Dnj

Re: cutest GOOD bass player I've seen. - 11/17/17 02:53 PM

If you wanna see the "groove gene" just watch a dance floor full of people it's all out there and it ain't pretty.. some are great but others look like they were blindfolded, spun around 5 times fast, and then take off the blindfold and jump out on the dance floor just moving dizzy to their own beat never hearing the music at all,.....your born with it or without..not a bad thing just life!
Posted by: cgiles

Re: cutest GOOD bass player I've seen. - 11/17/17 03:23 PM

Originally Posted By Dnj
If you wanna see the "groove gene" just watch a dance floor full of people it's all out there and it ain't pretty.. some are great but others look like they were blindfolded, spun around 5 times fast, and then take off the blindfold and jump out on the dance floor...


smile smile Now THAT'S funny.

chas
Posted by: Uncle Dave

Re: cutest GOOD bass player I've seen. - 11/18/17 05:24 PM

Originally Posted By cgiles
Santana has always had the best rhythm section on the planet (even if it was augmented by the great Chester Thompson



Whom he STOLE from The venerable funk-masters from Oakland!!!!!!!
(Tower of Power for those of you, living under rocks) smile
Posted by: Nigel

Re: cutest GOOD bass player I've seen. - 11/20/17 01:14 AM

Tal has some very cute moments.

Posted by: Bernie9

Re: cutest GOOD bass player I've seen. - 11/20/17 02:16 AM

As good as she obviously is, she could enhance her stage presence immeasurably by getting rid of that sneer and having more "Cute Moments". OOH maybe hard rockers prefer that image.
Posted by: cgiles

Re: cutest GOOD bass player I've seen. - 11/20/17 04:50 AM

What some people see as a "sneer", others just see as being 'into' the music. A lot of musicians effect facial expressions while performing; they're just feeling the music, not trying to project an image (ever watch B.B. King?). I think we're getting way to picky about things that have little to do with talent. In general, the 'get off my lawn' crowd tends to be overly critical of their younger counterparts (as though we weren't exactly the same when we were their age smile ). She's cute AND she's talented; that's more than most of US can say. JMO.

chas
Posted by: cgiles

Re: cutest GOOD bass player I've seen. - 11/20/17 05:31 AM

Example of a musician with facial expressions while playing. Listen at least to the end of the first tune and tell me which you think is more important, a new Genos or a new music teacher smile. As has been stated many times before, it ain't the keyboard, it's the keyboardist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AJdSRIlDUg&sns=em

My guitar player sent me this clip of Joey as he is a friend of the guitarist in the clip. Not bad for a 60 yr.old 'electronic keyboard'. Damned thing does't even have a chord sequencer or a transpose button. Oh well.

chas
Posted by: Dnj

Re: cutest GOOD bass player I've seen. - 11/20/17 05:36 AM

alot of that so called facial stuff is fake,...as many that I see just "turn it on or off at will" the second the music starts or they are playing I'm sorry but it looks so phoney most times IMO..
Posted by: Uncle Dave

Re: cutest GOOD bass player I've seen. - 11/20/17 08:35 AM

Originally Posted By cgiles
this clip of Joey


Joey D was at a wedding I played when he was about 10 yrs old, and his Dad came up and asked me if his son could sit in on my gear ... (solo act - might've been an early Roland E something .... EM2000, maybe?) Anyway - I asked him what he wanted to do, he said "Misty ... up, swing. Just give me a walking bass, organ and a drum beat" - WOW - even at 10, this kid could swing. Very cool memory. Wonder if he tells his friends that he played with Uncle Dave? (naw) smile