Genos VS Montage

Posted by: Eric, B

Genos VS Montage - 10/11/17 11:33 AM

This is a great write up about the direction Yamaha is going.
I enjoyed reading it wink
Eric

Click here
Posted by: Nick G

Re: Genos VS Montage - 10/11/17 04:34 PM

Great write up by Bad Mister, I have a lot of respect for him.

My thoughts on the Genos is that it pretty much is what all the Tyros 3 and onwards should have been...

BUT I still fail to learn HOW the Genos is NOT a new version of a tyros that is wrapped in black casing, a new operating system, touch screen and less buttons with some new knobs and a joystick... If it were called Tyros 6 it would still make sense to me...

After looking through the specs I cant see anything that really differentiates itself from the typical Arranger category...

After watching the Sweetwater demo video from Martin Harris about the Genos, if you closed your eyes and imagined every time he said "Genos" and swapped it with "Tyros", you could actually substitute that video for a Tyros. there is actually no difference other than the part where he mentions the knobs and "touch screen".

Montage against Motif - yes - definitely they are two completely unique devices... but Genos and Tyros.. I dont see it.

Im still probably going to by the Genos lol

Nick
Posted by: shueymusic

Re: Genos VS Montage - 10/11/17 07:46 PM

Genos $5499... Montage 7 $3499

$2000 difference in advertised price!

Paying for the content?

Genos is targeted at professional song writers?!?

I just want the right sounds and effects to make a "kick butt" backing track to sing songs to brighten someone's day. I want the enjoyment of building the arrangement from the ground up. Simple.

Can't wait to hear and touch a Genos!
Posted by: W Tracy Parnell

Re: Genos VS Montage - 10/12/17 05:30 AM

The $5000 price of the Tyros/Genos vs Montage may be nothing more than Yamaha perceives that the average person who buys their arrangers has the financial ability and the willingness to pay more so they charge more.
Posted by: 124

Re: Genos VS Montage - 10/12/17 08:21 AM

^ I've no doubt that Yamaha do their market research carefully. You may well be right about that.
Posted by: Dnj

Re: Genos VS Montage - 10/12/17 10:32 AM

Yamaha will shoot themselves in the foot if they release the new S series replacement MOTL arranger....they want to sell as many Genos units first at 5k then maybe a year later bring out to lower less featured model makes sense.
Posted by: travlin'easy

Re: Genos VS Montage - 10/12/17 11:04 AM

I seriously doubt that you will see a NEW S series keyboard until the middle of next fall.

Gary cool
Posted by: Dnj

Re: Genos VS Montage - 10/12/17 11:17 AM

Originally Posted By travlin'easy
I seriously doubt that you will see a NEW S series keyboard until the middle of next fall.

Gary cool


exactly !.....it's just marketing strategy for optimum profit yield
Posted by: Bachus

Re: Genos VS Montage - 10/12/17 12:52 PM

Originally Posted By Eric, B
This is a great write up about the direction Yamaha is going.
I enjoyed reading it wink
Eric

Click here



Great find Eric

Good read.. and very imteresting..

Also proofs that according to Yamaha USA, the Genos does not need deep synth edditing and other pro features because if you need those, you need to buy the Montage

Makes me wonder why Korg still puts in all the effort to have a full blown synth engine and all those other pro features in the Pa4x... because according to bad mister, Genos users do not need nor want them...
Posted by: mirza

Re: Genos VS Montage - 10/12/17 01:01 PM

Because most of the pros that know their stuff will most likely choose Pa4x over Genos or Tyros. Pro players like to have options.
Posted by: Bachus

Re: Genos VS Montage - 10/14/17 07:21 AM

When you look at the features...

The Montage has to offer
- more sounds’
- 3 times the sample memmory of the Genos
- deep sound edditing
- huge amount of arps 10k + over 2k user arps
- audio over usb
- top knotch daw integration with montage connect
- 61 and 88 key versions
- Even better live controllers, the knobs are encoders and more
- onboard deep edditing and Sound creation
- 2 dsp/sound vs 1 on the Genos
- FM engine
- super knob
- the 4 rows of 8 buttons to the right that make for an increible live interface

Genos has to offer
- styles, multipads
- sa2 sounds
- graphical organ flutes
- ensemble sounds
- double professional sequencer with edditing features
- easier understandable user interface



It almost makes me wonder why Tyros and Genos are so much more expensive?
(Well actually i know, the reason is Genos users are prepared to pay more )



And then there is me... wanting all of this in a single 88 key instrument...
And being prepared to pay as much as €6000..