Balanced TRS Connection Versus XLR

Posted by: fjs714

Balanced TRS Connection Versus XLR - 05/05/17 03:28 PM

Hi Fellas,
When connecting your Keyboard (Korg Pa4x) to a mixer; then your mixer to a PA (Evox 8) Do you notice any audable difference in the quality of sound by using the XLR cables
thanks Frank
Posted by: travlin'easy

Re: Balanced TRS Connection Versus XLR - 05/05/17 04:49 PM

There really should be no difference if the connections are properly made. If you are using an adapter cable, be sure that Pin 2 is connected to the tip of the TSR plug and pins 1 and 3 are connected together and connect to the sleeve.

Good luck,

Gary cool
Posted by: frankieve

Re: Balanced TRS Connection Versus XLR - 05/06/17 07:33 AM

TRS and XLR cables are designed to help in the elimination of noise, from ground loops and hums, they have a 3rd wire which is designed to shield outside interference.

That doesn't mean a regular ¼" won't work.

The other big issue is the quality of the cable, a discount cable, or incredibly priced cable usually has to cut corners to get to that price, which could mean, a thinner gauge wire, or a inferior oxygen ratio, so just because its a ¼" cable does not make them equal.

Remember your sound is based on the chain of equipment including how they are connected and how they are set up.

Rule of thumb, your total sound is greatly affected by the lowest quality item in your chain
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Balanced TRS Connection Versus XLR - 05/06/17 08:43 AM

Thanks for the advice on cables. Lloyd
Posted by: Dnj

Re: Balanced TRS Connection Versus XLR - 05/06/17 09:43 AM

Originally Posted By Korgman5
Thanks for the advice on cables. Lloyd



https://www.monsterproducts.com/products/cables/music-instrument




all my cables are Monster
Posted by: travlin'easy

Re: Balanced TRS Connection Versus XLR - 05/06/17 10:29 AM

Originally Posted By Dnj
Originally Posted By Korgman5
Thanks for the advice on cables. Lloyd



https://www.monsterproducts.com/products/cables/music-instrument




all my cables are Monster


All my cables are Gary Made! wink

Gary cool
Posted by: Bachus

Re: Balanced TRS Connection Versus XLR - 05/06/17 11:50 PM

Originally Posted By travlin'easy
Originally Posted By Dnj
Originally Posted By Korgman5
Thanks for the advice on cables. Lloyd



https://www.monsterproducts.com/products/cables/music-instrument




all my cables are Monster


All my cables are Gary Made! wink

Gary cool


Handmade cables... in general they are the first to break... most man done soldering is just not equal to high end factory soldering... many factory cables also have features that make your soldering surve some strain.. Handmande cables in general dont

However handmade cables are easilly repaired.. and that cant be said from the latest factory cables...
Posted by: Sokratis 1974

Re: Balanced TRS Connection Versus XLR - 05/07/17 12:52 AM

I use always the Radial ProD2 Passive Stereo Direct D.I Box, in connection of my Arrangers..
The differences with simple direct Balance connection (with TRS cables), and the connection with Radial ProD2 (or with a good Passive D.I Box), is that:

1) With Radial D.I (and with a good D.I Box also) the signal is transformed to MIC connection, (with two XLR cables), and we can to use the Gain of Microphone Pre Amp of console, without distortion, and the good way to transformed to MIC the signal is with a good D.I Box..
2) This D.I is specifically designed for Keyboards, Drum Machines, Samplers, etc, able to handle huge transients without choking..
3) With Radial ProD2, we have a smooth, warm sound, much more better than, Line direct connection or Balanced connection, eliminating also hum and buzz caused by ground loops.
4) Becouse the Radial ProD2, is Passive D.I, with two high performance transformers, it does not need Phantom Power (48v), like the Active D.I,s..
5) The difference of Balanced (TRS) connector, and transformed MIC of D.I is that in a Balanced (with TRS cables), the signal remain Line, although is (Line Balanced)...

If you go through the DI box to a suitable mic preamp, you can also benefit from the tonal colour the preamp offers
(Sound on Sound magazine)..

http://www.soundonsound.com/sound-advice/q-there-any-point-di-ing-keyboards

I am use always the Radial ProD2, with my Audya 76, Audya 5, and Pa3x also although Pa3x has Balanced Output...


Posted by: travlin'easy

Re: Balanced TRS Connection Versus XLR - 05/07/17 07:17 AM

Bachus, in more than 50 years of making cables, I have not had a single cable failure - not one! And, this is likely because I use heavier guage wire and know how to solder corrrectly.

Gary