PA 4X Arrived

Posted by: guitpic1

PA 4X Arrived - 07/01/16 01:08 PM

Only had 30 minutes with it and things are going to get busy.

First impression. It's a keeper. Size, key bed, controls...lovely.

Love the sounds and styles. It appears to be more adaptable to live play than my Yammie but we'll see. Came with 1.1.2 OS.

More Later.

smile
Posted by: Bernie9

Re: PA 4X Arrived - 07/01/16 01:13 PM

The fun begins. Glad you like it.
Bernie
Posted by: DonM

Re: PA 4X Arrived - 07/01/16 02:11 PM

Originally Posted By: guitpic1
Only had 30 minutes with it and things are going to get busy.

First impression. It's a keeper. Size, key bed, controls...lovely.

Love the sounds and styles. It appears to be more adaptable to live play than my Yammie but we'll see. Came with 1.1.2 OS.

More Later.

smile


Update to Version 1.2.
Be certain to load Resources AFTER you update. Follow instructions and it is a piece of cake.
Posted by: rikkisbears

Re: PA 4X Arrived - 07/01/16 02:59 PM

Congratulations. Have fun.
Posted by: Dnj

Re: PA 4X Arrived - 07/01/16 04:11 PM

party keys party

have fun congrats!
Posted by: guitpic1

Re: PA 4X Arrived - 07/02/16 01:43 AM

Originally Posted By: DonM
Originally Posted By: guitpic1
Only had 30 minutes with it and things are going to get busy.

First impression. It's a keeper. Size, key bed, controls...lovely.

Love the sounds and styles. It appears to be more adaptable to live play than my Yammie but we'll see. Came with 1.1.2 OS.

More Later.

smile


Update to Version 1.2.
Be certain to load Resources AFTER you update. Follow instructions and it is a piece of cake.


Load Resources?
Posted by: Stephenm52

Re: PA 4X Arrived - 07/02/16 04:29 AM

Originally Posted By: guitpic1
Originally Posted By: DonM
Originally Posted By: guitpic1
Only had 30 minutes with it and things are going to get busy.

First impression. It's a keeper. Size, key bed, controls...lovely.

Love the sounds and styles. It appears to be more adaptable to live play than my Yammie but we'll see. Came with 1.1.2 OS.

More Later.

smile


Update to Version 1.2.
Be certain to load Resources AFTER you update. Follow instructions and it is a piece of cake.


Load Resources?


CONGRATS!!!

This may be helpful for updating the OS and loading resources.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MJ0wpoSQKU

and this

http://www.korgforums.com/forums-frame.htm

At the Korg forum be sure to scroll down to where the section on the Pa4x is.
Posted by: Bachus

Re: PA 4X Arrived - 07/02/16 06:44 AM

Comgratulations, enjoy your new toy...
Posted by: tony mads usa

Re: PA 4X Arrived - 07/02/16 11:48 AM

Bernie oops, not Bernie, Rog ! ... CONGRATULATIONS, and ENJOY ... make beautiful music, and let us hear some of it ... keys
Posted by: shueymusic

Re: PA 4X Arrived - 07/02/16 02:09 PM

Congrats and keep us posted on your experience!!
Posted by: guitpic1

Re: PA 4X Arrived - 07/02/16 04:02 PM

Tx all for the help.

Very busy right now and won't have much time with the PA4X. At least until next week.

I've got 30 days to decide. But it looks very favorable at this time.

Tx again.

Rog Lee
Posted by: guitpic1

Re: PA 4X Arrived - 07/05/16 11:11 AM

Update:

I like the PA 4X and am pretty sure I'll keep it...I need another day with it.

There are some Yammie styles and voices I wish it had. I find the guitars on the 4X a bit weak but I also see that the 4X has a good editing system so I'm thinking I'll get what I want. The one voice that I miss the most is a good steel guitar as in the Yammie Hawaiian steel. I use that one a lot.

Regarding the TC Helicon harmonizer...It is something else...love it. I thought the Yammie harmonizer was good but I did find out what I was missing.

Probably sounds a bit wierd but I like the styles on the PA 4X better. I know this is subjective but the styles seem so much more alive and I love how I can drop parts of the styles in and out at the push of a button.

Regarding styles, I've taken a bit different approach with the PA 4X. For example a song like 'Send Me The Pillow That You Dream On' I used a jazzy ballad on the PA 4X as opposed to a more authentic 50's shuffle style that I would find on a Yammie. A purist would know the PA 4X style is not as authentic but I can see the folks, where I play, enjoying that style and not getting hung up on authenticity. I can see myself taking songs from the 40's and 50's and giving them a bit more of a modern twist.

Specific styles like a Johnny Cash song 'Ring Of Fire' might be hard to recreate on the PA 4X where there's a custom made style for that song found on the PSR forum. There are other songs like that that a person would have to get creative on the PA 4X.

Real time controls for live play are great on the PA 4X. That's a strong point.

Song Book/Set List appear to be a well organized way to do live shows. It might just be me, but I struggled a bit with my S970 and Tyros in that regard.

So far, so good. Back at it tomorrow.

By the way, I've been using my Space Station V.3 for sound with the PA 4X. Great sound.

Rog Lee









Posted by: Stephenm52

Re: PA 4X Arrived - 07/05/16 01:47 PM

Originally Posted By: guitpic1
Update:

I like the PA 4X and am pretty sure I'll keep it...I need another day with it.

There are some Yammie styles and voices I wish it had. I The one voice that I miss the most is a good steel guitar as in the Yammie Hawaiian steel. I use that one a lot.

Regarding the TC Helicon harmonizer...It is something else...love it.

Probably sounds a bit wierd but I like the styles on the PA 4X better. I know this is subjective but the styles seem so much more alive and I love how I can drop parts of the styles in and out at the push of a button.


Specific styles like a Johnny Cash song 'Ring Of Fire' might be hard to recreate on the PA 4X where there's a custom made style for that song found on the PSR forum. There are other songs like that that a person would have to get creative on the PA 4X.

Real time controls for live play are great on the PA 4X. That's a strong point.

Song Book/Set List appear to be a well organized way to do live shows.
So far, so good. Back at it tomorrow.


Rog Lee




Rog,

Nice review, seems as though you've discovered all the strong points that have had me owning Korg arrangers for quite a few years and have to believe the pluses in your quote are the same ones that have kept other SZ members using Korg.

I do miss that Yamaha Hawiaan guitar too. You many want to try the midi to style converter for a tune like "Ring of Fire."

Enjoy and congratulations on your Pa4x.
Posted by: rikkisbears

Re: PA 4X Arrived - 07/05/16 03:08 PM

Hi Roger,
Korgs load samples, maybe down the track you could get a good steel guitar sound?or tweak the onboard one.

And as Stephen mentioned, pa4x has midi song to style convertor, some work quite well apparently, you may just be lucky.
Posted by: DonM

Re: PA 4X Arrived - 07/05/16 03:45 PM

There is a good Pedal Steel sound that I use a lot, but I'll have to bring the kb in to take a look at the name.
There are lots of available song-type styles as well. Not sure about Ring of Fire. I use the Country Strum for a lot of JC songs.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: PA 4X Arrived - 07/05/16 03:54 PM

For Ring of Fire, I use the pick bass I specifically programmed on my Integra and also MoXF for Bert Kaempfert. It is exactly the bass sound used by Johnny Cash end of the 60s. There was one pick bass coming close in the BK-9, it needs to have that 'knocking' sound in the attack phase of the tone.
Posted by: DonM

Re: PA 4X Arrived - 07/05/16 04:54 PM

Originally Posted By: rosetree
For Ring of Fire, I use the pick bass I specifically programmed on my Integra and also MoXF for Bert Kaempfert. It is exactly the bass sound used by Johnny Cash end of the 60s. There was one pick bass coming close in the BK-9, it needs to have that 'knocking' sound in the attack phase of the tone.


Thanks will try it.
I play ROF every night because the waiters prepare flaming desserts and drinks at tableside, and the guests get a kick out of hearing the song as the flames are blazing during the preparation.
Posted by: DonM

Re: PA 4X Arrived - 07/06/16 10:43 AM

Originally Posted By: DonM
There is a good Pedal Steel sound that I use a lot, but I'll have to bring the kb in to take a look at the name.
There are lots of available song-type styles as well. Not sure about Ring of Fire. I use the Country Strum for a lot of JC songs.


Try:
33X B DI DNC
That's the name of the sound in the Guitar Bank. It makes a good lead Pedal Steel Guitar sound.
Posted by: mirza

Re: PA 4X Arrived - 07/06/16 12:01 PM

I ordered one too today.
Posted by: Bachus

Re: PA 4X Arrived - 07/06/16 02:26 PM

Originally Posted By: mirza
I ordered one too today.


Congratulations
Posted by: rikkisbears

Re: PA 4X Arrived - 07/06/16 03:07 PM

Originally Posted By: mirza
I ordered one too today.


Enjoy
Posted by: Dnj

Re: PA 4X Arrived - 07/06/16 03:56 PM

Originally Posted By: mirza
I ordered one too today.

Congrats Mirza keep us posted on your progress as you go along with the PA4x .....Wow it's KORGS time to shine for now until Yamaha unveils it's new arranger KB line hopefully soon. cool2 KORG/Yamaha/Ketron....
all different, all sound terriffic, it's your choice to suit your needs if an arranger is your thing.... keys
Posted by: Bachus

Re: PA 4X Arrived - 07/06/16 09:07 PM

Originally Posted By: Dnj
Originally Posted By: mirza
I ordered one too today.

Congrats Mirza keep us posted on your progress as you go along with the PA4x .....Wow it's KORGS time to shine for now until Yamaha unveils it's new arranger KB line hopefully soon. cool2 KORG/Yamaha/Ketron....
all different, all sound terriffic, it's your choice to suit your needs if an arranger is your thing.... keys


They announced the psr s970 only about a year ago...

The Tyros 5 now is almost. 3 years old, which normally would indicate a new keyboard, yamaha however plans to make it a 4 or 5 year gap between releases...
Posted by: guitpic1

Re: PA 4X Arrived - 07/07/16 12:15 AM

Originally Posted By: DonM
Originally Posted By: DonM
There is a good Pedal Steel sound that I use a lot, but I'll have to bring the kb in to take a look at the name.
There are lots of available song-type styles as well. Not sure about Ring of Fire. I use the Country Strum for a lot of JC songs.


Try:
33X B DI DNC
That's the name of the sound in the Guitar Bank. It makes a good lead Pedal Steel Guitar sound.


Tx for the info.

Rog L
Posted by: Stephenm52

Re: PA 4X Arrived - 07/07/16 05:59 AM

Mirza, Congratulations on the Pa4x


Don, Nice find with 33X B DI DNC.
Posted by: tony mads usa

Re: PA 4X Arrived - 07/07/16 04:06 PM

Originally Posted By: Stephenm52
Mirza, Congratulations on the Pa4x


Yes, best of luck ...

Originally Posted By: Stephenm52
Don, Nice find with 33X B DI DNC.


Will that work on the Pa900?
Posted by: Stephenm52

Re: PA 4X Arrived - 07/07/16 06:03 PM

Originally Posted By: tony mads usa
Originally Posted By: Stephenm52
Mirza, Congratulations on the Pa4x


Yes, best of luck ...

Originally Posted By: Stephenm52
Don, Nice find with 33X B DI DNC.


Will that work on the Pa900?


Tony I'll send you the file.
Posted by: tony mads usa

Re: PA 4X Arrived - 07/07/16 07:18 PM

Thank you Steve
Posted by: guitpic1

Re: PA 4X Arrived - 07/11/16 06:41 AM

Originally Posted By: DonM
Originally Posted By: DonM
There is a good Pedal Steel sound that I use a lot, but I'll have to bring the kb in to take a look at the name.
There are lots of available song-type styles as well. Not sure about Ring of Fire. I use the Country Strum for a lot of JC songs.


Try:
33X B DI DNC
That's the name of the sound in the Guitar Bank. It makes a good lead Pedal Steel Guitar sound.


Tx Don but what is the actual name? I don't see that in the guitar bank?

Tx
Posted by: guitpic1

Re: PA 4X Arrived - 07/11/16 06:49 AM

Found it

Tx
Posted by: guitpic1

Re: PA 4X Arrived - 07/11/16 07:15 AM

Tx for the help on the steel guitar.

I'm thinking a person is going to have to do some editing to get close to a real steel guitar sound. The 33x is nice but a bit more like a dobro....a good dobro though.

I've loved most everything about the PA 4X so far with the exception of the guitars. They all sound, to me, like a variation of a Strat or Les Paul. I haven't found an acoustic guitar or steel guitar sound as good as I've found on my Yammies.

But truth be told, despite the guitar issue, I like about everything else on the 4X and am hoping I can edit a guitar sound to my liking.
Posted by: Dnj

Re: PA 4X Arrived - 07/11/16 07:27 AM

Originally Posted By: guitpic1
Tx for the help on the steel guitar.

I'm thinking a person is going to have to do some editing to get close to a real steel guitar sound. The 33x is nice but a bit more like a dobro....a good dobro though.

I've loved most everything about the PA 4X so far with the exception of the guitars. They all sound, to me, like a variation of a Strat or Les Paul. I haven't found an acoustic guitar or steel guitar sound as good as I've found on my Yammies.

But truth be told, despite the guitar issue, I like about everything else on the 4X and am hoping I can edit a guitar sound to my liking.


Posted by: Dnj

Re: PA 4X Arrived - 07/11/16 07:28 AM