Pa4x versus T5

Whats wrong with this video?
Why does the Pa4x sound way more dynamic then the Tyros5?

its all in the Eq....makes a big difference ...thats why hearing it in person is always best.

Both keyboards recorded in mono, whereas his talking is recorded in stereo. Makes a lot of sense...

Additionally, the PA-4X or its recording level seems to be turned a bit louder than the Tyros 5.

Thast what i meant, point is this video is created by a reseller probably meant to sell more PA4x keyboards, and with Bonners being quite professional at these things, it might actually be on purpose..

Korgs have always sounded way more live than Yamaha which sound more like a CD, (Just do a search on the many forums out there) with most Yamaha owners heading straight for the EQ as soon as they get them (Korg owners less so).

As I am regularly out listening to live music this is what I base my comparisons on, and after hearing and trying both the PA4x & T5 I personally would go with the PA4x any day of the week. (The Yamaha Classical/Theatre organ bank is better than the PA4x as are the ensemble voices, plus Yamaha have refined the SA voices to perfection, however avoid the SA2 voices as they are totally unrealistic, also Yamaha styles fall well short of a live band feel, but there are so many free ones out there you will probably find something you like)

As each person is different only you can decide which is for you, so go out and try them and take online demos with a pinch of salt.

Bill

Its not about the pa4x sounding better then T5, my question is about making the T5 sound worse then it can sound, there is a little less volume, and as Donny says, the master EQ is disturbed in such a way thatit takes away. From the brilliance of the T5..

I could reproduce this on my T5 by setting the master EQ to function as kind of a a bandwith filer..

I am quite

EQ sounds screwed up, perhaps overdriven, on both keyboards.

What I can't understand is the way arrangers are compared. From what I understand, what makes an arranger appealing over other keyboards are such things as styles and ability to upgrade, voices, multipads, registrations, songbook, music finder, pop up screen, touch screen, editing ability, on-board memory etc.

Whether a keyboard(one without its own speakers) is a bit 'more alive' probably has a lot more to do with the PA system used and whether or not it's in stereo.

I'm giving a hard look at the PA 4X due to its size, weight, layout, touch screen and editing capabilities for live gigs.

Just got done doing a gig for seniors, around 50 folks using my Tyros 4. My Tyros sounded wonderful through my Bose compacts. The Tyros is big and bulky though.

The things that concern me re the PA 4X: have to do with duplicating the styles and voices I have on my Tyros; especially the country and bluegrass styles. Also, I love the DoWop vocal pads of the Tyros. My S970 lack those vocal multipads but I make it work. However, my S970 is a tad thin sounding compared to my Tyros.

Bottom line, I feel like the arranger comparisons I see on YouTube, miss the mark.

My $.02 anyway.

One other thing:

I have become increasingly unhappy with the Yamaha VH. I'm a TC Helicon fan and that's a plus for Korg.

I was unhappy with Yamaha's VH2 from the moment I heard it. Yamaha should be ashamed to have a rinky dink toy store harmonizer in their high end keyboards.

I guess the Doo Wop voices are an individual preference, I personally dislike them a lot.

If I ever have the money to invest in a high end keyboard it won't be Tyros as long as they have the VH 2 vocal processor.
God Bless,
Don

If you try to make Korg sound like Yamaha, or vice-versa, you won't! I certainly don't want my Korg to sound like a Yamaha; that's why I bought the Korg!
There is a wide variety of CW styles available, both on board and on the internet.

I will wait for the next Tyros model and see how that compares to the PAX4. The Korg is new to the market and quite a bit newer than our Tyros 5 models. I thinks the next Tyros model will be
quite good ! Just saying. Lloyd

Sure glad I'm semi retired and drink a lot!

Gary

Gary,
I second that! In fact when I read that...I got another drink mixed up! I play only for fun, no gigging, no carting around equipment getting it banged up...just play in my home.
Retired is good. I sure do, however have lots of respect for those that do play out especially for a living!

I can't sing...so even if I wanted to, I could not do gigs.
I don't think most groups want to just listen to instrumentals.