S970 vs Pa900

Dnj...

Why did you sell the Pa900? I read about the story of getting the S970. But what was your final straw with the Pa900?

Thanks!!

Shuey couldn't see the display sitting low in the seat.... That was the straw.

I hear you! I stand to play at my gigs... Still have semi-young knees at 42.

My thing with the display is how low the resolution is... It is almost 2016. With all the low cost, high resolution screens in the electronic market, you'd think the music industry would have caught up by now!

Nope, they are trailing by like 15 years when it comes to hardware... Not only screens but also CPU power, memmory bandwith, networking capabillities... Etc etc...

The hardware of a whole TOTL arranger like Tyros 5 doesnt even cost €150 for Yamaha And thats including keys, screens and buttons... Buy not assembly or software... Just the parts...

We need a keyboard revolution!! Like the DX7 was for Yamaha and the M1 was to Korg. Forget about continuing lines and innovate a keyboard everyone needs. Sell sound updates and enhanced features with clever marketing.

Buy one piece of hardware... Change software to have the keyboard you want!
Yamaha can put in small monitors with the NEXO processing!

So many possibilities!!!

Nice Idea, however Wersi has been doing this for the last 15 years (Lionstracs also tried (Now defunct) but couldn’t make a go of it) and is still going strong, but the fact that the big boys have not followed suit, means it’s probably unlikely in the future. (Let’s face it, it is more profitable to get users to buy a new keyboard every 3 years (Or so) with small improvements added then just providing users with the same improvements via software)

One can but hope

Bill

Keep hoping, Bill. Sure, it's all about the bottom line, and Wersi must have an eye on that. So maybe Wersi should produce something along the lines of the 'big boys', then. Keyboards with the size and built-in styles and sounds of Korg, Yamaha, etc., and price them accordingly. From what I've seen of Wersi so far, the price flat out kills them as much as their adherence to ancient organ sounds.

I know there is/was the Pegasus Wing, but that's about as close as they get. But all I hear is hockey rink organs for the most part, and for how much????

Wersi have been around a long time, so I can only suppose they must be comfortable in their niche. Most of us gigging guys wouldn't touch a Wersi with a ten foot bargepole.

Electronic church organs still cost $100,000 to be pipe organ copy. Small churches of 200-250 active members pay that money because it is worth it to them. Home organist are a small percentage of the market. $10,000 to $20,000 is what they are after. The keyboardist from my generation want a mix of performance/functionality/great tech that works . The same as all of us. The trickle until the well is dry is getting old!!

Yes, I posted on S-Z a number of years ago about the idea of being able to purchase 'menu driven' KB software - styles and sounds that fit YOUR needs, not a lot of stuff you might never use ... but of course the reality is the profits are in selling new gear ...
hmmmm ... But if they charged enough for the software might they not make enough ?

But then, when is enough, ENOUGH ?!?

The Organs are in the same price brackets as all the other organs on the market, so Wersi has them priced accordingly, plus organs are designed to be played which means the easy play features that are included on arrangers are of less importance. (Fancy styles just get in the way of your playing)

The Wing is priced between the Yamaha S970/PA900 and T5/PA4x and is still selling well (So I have been told), however the last software update was in October 2013 so it is definitely due an update. Currently the focus is on continuing to expand the Sonic Software (The entire R & D of Wersi consists of just 2 people) so V3 is probably still some way off, but it would be nice if they used some of the new sounds and styles developed for the Sonic, (Don’t think we can expect any of the Sonics1GB pianos etc. or any of the advanced features though, as like all arrangers the Wing is designed for easy play)

Bill

Interesting that thought, maybe Wersi should expand their market as all the latest OAX organs can have Hauowerk software (Some of the best pipe organ emulations out there) loaded on-board (Due to Wersi being able to accept VST instruments), plus the screen is large enough to play them manually if required, so would be a cheaper option for churches, (Even when you add in the extra speakers required) as well as giving them all the latest orchestral & choir sounds etc.

Bill

Thinking about it, here’s always a buzz when you get something physically new, (Even if inside the differences are small) which probably also enters into the equation. (Just getting a software update is less sexy)

Bill