Are the TOTL Arrangers Really Advanced?

Posted by: abacus

Are the TOTL Arrangers Really Advanced? - 11/07/15 01:26 AM

Or are we just deluding ourselves with manufactures just selling us mutton dressed up as lamb.

Here are 2 recordings from 1988 (Almost 28 years ago) using the keyboards available at the time

Select

Like a Classic

You decide

Bill
Posted by: Mikem

Re: Are the TOTL Arrangers Really Advanced? - 11/07/15 04:19 AM

Wow! These sound quite good, especially the Classical one.
Hard to believe they're from 28 years ago.

Are these built-in keyboard demos?

Is the Classical one a Roland?

I think you've made an interesting point!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Are the TOTL Arrangers Really Advanced? - 11/07/15 04:40 AM

Was a Kurzweil involved here? Sounds much too realistic for a normal instrument of 1988 for my ears. Korg M1 sounded worse. And the M1 was the most advanced, sample-based synthesizer of that time that was still affordable.
Posted by: Mikem

Re: Are the TOTL Arrangers Really Advanced? - 11/07/15 05:15 AM

Originally Posted By: rosetree
Was a Kurzweil involved here? Sounds much too realistic for a normal instrument of 1988 for my ears. Korg M1 sounded worse. And the M1 was the most advanced, sample-based synthesizer of that time that was still affordable.



I originally asked if it was a Kurweil, but then edited my post to read Roland. That's because his header asks if TOTL ARRANGERS are really advanced, not TOTL WORKSTATIONS. As far as I know, Kurzweil did not make any arrangers 28 years ago.

I was also thinking that perhaps the Classical demo was from Technics.
Posted by: abacus

Re: Are the TOTL Arrangers Really Advanced? - 11/07/15 05:27 AM

The title may be slightly off, however Midi is involved which is the staple of all arrangers. (Styles are just Midi loops unless audio) I was also tending to focus more on the sound where manufactures are claiming to have made great strides.

The player is still very popular today.

Bill
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Are the TOTL Arrangers Really Advanced? - 11/07/15 05:30 AM

So this wasn't from an arranger from 1988. I was sure it couldn't.
Posted by: Mikem

Re: Are the TOTL Arrangers Really Advanced? - 11/07/15 05:35 AM

That makes sense, now. So I'll stick to my original post, before I edited it, and say that the Classical demo was made with a Kurzweil. smile
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Are the TOTL Arrangers Really Advanced? - 11/07/15 05:36 AM

[quote=
I originally asked if it was a Kurweil, but then edited my post to read Roland. That's because his header asks if TOTL ARRANGERS are really advanced, not TOTL WORKSTATIONS. As far as I know, Kurzweil did not make any arrangers 28 years ago.

I was also thinking that perhaps the Classical demo was from Technics. [/quote]

Arrangers at that time were never as advanced in sounds as the ground-breaking sample-based synthesizers like M1. Otherwise Yamaha could have dumped their FM-based Electone organs very quickly... I still have some cassette recordings of my Electone and later Electone + SY-55 from that time... That's why I thought a synth has to be involved here.
Posted by: Mikem

Re: Are the TOTL Arrangers Really Advanced? - 11/07/15 05:42 AM

Originally Posted By: rosetree
[quote=
I originally asked if it was a Kurweil, but then edited my post to read Roland. That's because his header asks if TOTL ARRANGERS are really advanced, not TOTL WORKSTATIONS. As far as I know, Kurzweil did not make any arrangers 28 years ago.

I was also thinking that perhaps the Classical demo was from Technics.


Arrangers at that time were never as advanced in sounds as the ground-breaking sample-based synthesizers like M1. Otherwise Yamaha could have dumped their FM-based Electone organs very quickly... I still have some cassette recordings of my Electone and later Electone + SY-55 from that time... That's why I thought a synth has to be involved here. [/quote]



I remember that time well. I was in a Montreal store in 1989 and saw the Korg M1, and also the Roland U-20. I bought the U-20. I somehow liked it better, for my needs.

You're right about arrangers back then. I wanted one, but didn't find anything, except those big, expensive organs which played accompaniment, and also a small arranger-type module. It only played a few parts at a time. I don't remember the brand.
Posted by: Dnj

Re: Are the TOTL Arrangers Really Advanced? - 11/07/15 06:38 AM

How old is the B3?........I rest my case..