Korg PA upgrade

Posted by: KORG80

Korg PA upgrade - 02/19/15 02:48 PM

I want to upgrade my rented Korg PA 600 to the latest OS. The Korg support site offers downloads for OS 1.20 or factory restore for 1.20. Since I haven't made any changes can I use the factory reset?

Tony and Don, I'm sure you both upgraded your 900's. What would be my best choice? My instinct tells me factory reset, but I wanted to check with you before doing anything foolish as I have read of problems with the upgrade. Praise the Lord/Graham lost complete use of his keyboard.

God Bless,
Don
Posted by: DonM

Re: Korg PA upgrade - 02/19/15 06:40 PM

Are you sure you are reading it right? I think maybe it's Resources instead of Restore.
I did the update on PA900 with no problem, but I did not do the new Resources.
Tony did both and it seems to have moved some styles around to different locations. Maybe it has some new ones.
I didn't do the Resources update because I had edited a number of factory styles and added some of my own to factory locations, and I would have lost all that and had to reload them. Didn't want to take the chance as I was really busy working at the time.
The primary reason I wanted the update was that it restored the fingered 3 mode, that had been left off the original OS.

Posted by: tony mads usa

Re: Korg PA upgrade - 02/19/15 06:46 PM

Don ... before you do ANYTHING do a 'FULL RESOURCE BACKUP' and save it on a USB ...
I obviously made some error when I did the latest Pa900 upgrade, because a lot of things got switched around ... Song titles in my custom playlists were looking in the right place for the associated style, but the style was no longer there ... Sometimes KORG might add a new style or two and change the locations of the styles ... If you want to upgrade and don't care if any new styles are going to be added, do the OS upgrade WITHOUT the resources ...
Doing the Factory Restore for 1.20 might have some new styles, and potentially cause a 'location' problem
Whatever you do, you would have your current settings to go back to if necessary ...
Hope this helps ...
Posted by: KORG80

Re: Korg PA upgrade - 02/19/15 10:46 PM

Thanks guys. I went with the OS update downloaded to USB and then followed instructions on the YouTube video manual. Worked like a charm. After updating I starting creating a set list for an upcoming seniors concert. I've got 5 of my own song settings but I can't seem to change the STS voices. Also when moving from one of my set songs to another if I don't press STS 1 my keyboard sound will be the one I just used on the previous song. Is that normal?
Posted by: Bachus

Re: Korg PA upgrade - 02/20/15 03:22 AM

What went wrong in your post?
Posted by: PraiseTheLord

Re: Korg PA upgrade - 02/20/15 06:44 AM

Don, the instructions for the Pa900 say you need to do a Factory Restore of Global settings to complete the upgrade.

Sounds like an STS Mode setting. Check that out in the manual and experiment with different settings, but the light should be flashing so that it will allow the STS to change with the song. Sounds like your light is solid on.
Posted by: DonM

Re: Korg PA upgrade - 02/20/15 09:11 AM

Well, you can do the upgrade without doing the Factory Resource Restore. I didn't want to lose my custom styles that I had loaded into factory locations. Sooner or later, I will save them to where they are easily restored, and then update the resources. Not sure what I'm missing if anything.
Posted by: KORG80

Re: Korg PA upgrade - 02/20/15 11:02 AM

Graham, I bet that STS light is on. I will check.

God Bless,
Don
Posted by: KORG80

Re: Korg PA upgrade - 02/20/15 11:08 AM

Whoah, Bachus! I see what you mean. Don't know what happened there!

Blessings,
Don
Posted by: PraiseTheLord

Re: Korg PA upgrade - 02/20/15 03:52 PM

Don, you can edit that post and help us all out wink
Posted by: PraiseTheLord

Re: Korg PA upgrade - 02/20/15 03:58 PM

Don M, I don't think you are missing any resources, the Factory Restore to Global, as far as I can see, is just to add a MIDI preset. In the upgrade manual it talks about "The “Tablet” MIDI Preset has been added" to the Global settings.
Posted by: KORG80

Re: Korg PA upgrade - 02/20/15 06:06 PM

Thanks Graham. It was the STS light. Works correctly now. Is there a SAVE process for sets created in songbook. I created a SET and the first two songs I added are always there but if I add 5 more. I'm losing them on reboot. Just getting ready to look it up in the PDF Manual. I will also watch the video again.

God Bless,
Don
P.S. I don't see any way of deleting the offending post. There is no EDIT switch.
Posted by: tony mads usa

Re: Korg PA upgrade - 02/20/15 07:33 PM

Originally Posted By: KORG80

P.S. I don't see any way of deleting the offending post. There is no EDIT switch.


I believe only Nigel can 'EDIT' it now ...
Posted by: PraiseTheLord

Re: Korg PA upgrade - 02/20/15 08:02 PM

Don, not sure what you mean by SET; do you mean you have created a Custom List of songs in your Songbook?
Posted by: KORG80

Re: Korg PA upgrade - 02/20/15 08:22 PM

Hi Tony, That's what I thought! By the way "ARTIE'S THEME" is pretty cool for "HOTEL CALIFORNIA".

Thanks to you cluing me in to the VL3D desktop Digitech, I think I will save over a thousand dollars. The PA 600 with the VL3D is a great combination. I am pleased with the sound coming through my Bose. The harmony I heard from the TC Helicon is not as good. I can hear a phasey sound when harmony is engaged. Mind you I only got to check the 900's TC sound under headphones at the store. It's possible what I hear would not be as noticeable over a PA.

Do you create set lists in Songbook to organize your repertoire? I just successfully saved my first SET. Songbook may be more powerful than Yamaha's registration system. I think I may be buying a 600 soon. Planning on using it for a senior's concert on Wednesday.

Doesn't it seem weird when us seniors talk about playing for seniors. I actually can't believe I'm well into my senior years. Music and fishing are what keep me young at heart. Thanks for listening.

God Bless,
Don
Posted by: travlin'easy

Re: Korg PA upgrade - 02/21/15 09:29 AM

Originally Posted By: KORG80
Doesn't it seem weird when us seniors talk about playing for seniors. I actually can't believe I'm well into my senior years. Music and fishing are what keep me young at heart. Thanks for listening.

God Bless,
Don


Don, the great thing is that it's very easy to create song lists, MFDs and registrations because we're performing the songs that we enjoyed through most of our lives. Ironically, some of the very young gals I played for last night at the Hyatt Place loved everything I played throughout the night, and many of them sang along with me. Similar to the songs done in the late 40s and early 50s, the music of the late 50s through the late 70s seems to be holding on as well. People still love it when you play Brown Eye Girl, Hotel California, House Of The Rising Sun and of course, anything country.

All the best old man,

Gary cool
Posted by: KORG80

Re: Korg PA upgrade - 02/21/15 11:10 AM

Asked Nigel to look into it.

Blessings,
Don
Posted by: KORG80

Re: Korg PA upgrade - 02/21/15 11:30 AM

Yes Graham! I have created a Custom List called SET 1. First two songs I put in I must have done everything right. After consulting the You Tube video on SONGBOOK, I was able to re-enter the songs that went missing and do a WRITE operation so now I have them all in memory. By the end of the weekend I should have become organized for my concert at Holland Christian Homes on Wednesday.

If I get stressed I'll just use the setup on my Yamaha PSR S750 but with the PA600 connected through midi to the keyboard I can bring in my harmonies with a tap of a footswitch just like you can on the 900. That gives a lot of freedom to someone like me who likes to perform as the Spirit and the audience move me.

I can see a PA 600 in my future.

Blessings,
Don
Posted by: tony mads usa

Re: Korg PA upgrade - 02/21/15 02:20 PM

Originally Posted By: KORG80
Hi Tony, That's what I thought! By the way "ARTIE'S THEME" is pretty cool for "HOTEL CALIFORNIA".
Thanks to you cluing me in to the VL3D desktop Digitech, I think I will save over a thousand dollars. The PA 600 with the VL3D is a great combination. I am pleased with the sound coming through my Bose. The harmony I heard from the TC Helicon is not as good. I can hear a phasey sound when harmony is engaged. Mind you I only got to check the 900's TC sound under headphones at the store. It's possible what I hear would not be as noticeable over a PA.
Do you create set lists in Songbook to organize your repertoire? I just successfully saved my first SET. Songbook may be more powerful than Yamaha's registration system. I think I may be buying a 600 soon. Planning on using it for a senior's concert on Wednesday.
Doesn't it seem weird when us seniors talk about playing for seniors. I actually can't believe I'm well into my senior years. Music and fishing are what keep me young at heart. Thanks for listening.
God Bless,
Don


Don ... For "Hotel California" I have edited an 'Unplugged' style and added some multipads and I think it sounds pretty good ... I will listen to "Arties Theme" again and perhaps do some similar editing and try it out ...

I have just started playing around with my Digitech VH Workstation EX again and I am going to A/B the EX vs. the on board TC ... the 'phasing' you hear can be pretty much eliminated by editing the harmony voices using the 'Smoothing' feature ...

I pretty much set up a different playlist for each of my NH/Assisted Living gigs ... It eliminates the need to try to think ahead about what song to play next ... each song title in the playlist is associated with a style - some edited just for that song - Sometimes the venue will tell me of a theme they are using that day and I set my playlist around that ... even if there is no 'official' theme, I usually develop a playlist around some common theme depending on the season, the weather, the month, whatever ...

I sometimes look at the audience and realize that there are people younger than I am ... I am Blessed that at almost 74 years of age, I am still on this side of the keyboard ...
Music and golf for me ... although I really am a 'hacker' grin ... (some might say at BOTH) ...
Posted by: KORG80

Re: Korg PA upgrade - 02/21/15 06:26 PM

Thanks Tony,


Man, I think golf would eat into my instrument budget a lot faster than fishing. I'm a "silent sports" guy so I don't have to buy expensive boats and motors. I fish out of kayaks, canoes and float tubes.

Being retired and mostly on pension, I can't just buy anything I desire especially since I always want the best. Good thing I couldn't afford a Tyros because as a singer I would have been majorly disappointed in Yamaha's poor excuse for vocal harmony processing. Let me know how your A/B comparison goes.

God Bless,
Don
Posted by: travlin'easy

Re: Korg PA upgrade - 02/21/15 06:55 PM

Don, sounds like you better go back to work as an OMB entertainer. Not only is it a lot of fun, you can set your own hours so you can get more time for fishing.

Golf is almost as expensive as saltwater fishing, but not quite as bad. And, BOAT is an acronym for Break Out Another Thousand. We call those thousands boat bucks.

As for the Yamaha harmonizer, the latest generation on the S-950 is actually pretty good. Not as good as the TC Helicon, but pretty close if you set it up properly, which takes a bit of time and experimenting, which many players are not willing to do. Big741 (Dan) has posted instructions on this procedure and if you follow them to the letter you will get good to excellent results.

Now, get your boney ass to work old man,

Gary cool
Posted by: tony mads usa

Re: Korg PA upgrade - 02/22/15 02:09 PM

Originally Posted By: KORG80
Thanks Tony,
Man, I think golf would eat into my instrument budget a lot faster than fishing. I'm a "silent sports" guy so I don't have to buy expensive boats and motors. I fish out of kayaks, canoes and float tubes.
Being retired and mostly on pension, I can't just buy anything I desire especially since I always want the best. Good thing I couldn't afford a Tyros because as a singer I would have been majorly disappointed in Yamaha's poor excuse for vocal harmony processing. Let me know how your A/B comparison goes.
God Bless,
Don


Don ... you have a PM ...
Posted by: Nigel

Re: Korg PA upgrade - 02/22/15 06:59 PM

You just get a few hours to edit it. But I have fixed it now.
Posted by: KORG80

Re: Korg PA upgrade - 02/23/15 04:45 AM

Thanks Nigel!