Sm58 or Sennheiser e835s for use with S950

Hi All,

Im planning to buy 2 microphones to use with my PSR-S950. Im looking at the Shure SM58 or the Sennheiser E835s. The Sennheiser is cheaper and has super reviews. Any suggestions here? Also are there any other mics I can consider in the same price range?

Thanks

Sunny

Neither..... Check out Electrovoice N/D767 mic.... Best gain by far vs others for vocals....

http://electrovoice.com/m/#family/128

Hi Dnj

Thanks for your valuable information. Unfortunately the ev is difficult to procure in my city and as I see its beyond my budget since I need 2 mics. Any more suggestions??

I would consider the AKG D5 or D5S, it is a great Mic that is Supercardiod and is very hard to get feedback even at close distances, my friend Michael Carollo used EV ND Series and Sennheiser E series, and got feedback, since he switch to AKG D5S, he so far is been Feedback Free, and sounds amazing too.

The AKG D5 has a Step down model, the P5 and P5 S, (The S is means that have a Switch to turn off the Mic on both Models D5S and P5S).
And the best part is the prices without compromising High Quality audio:


http://www.amazon.com/AKG-D5S-Profession...eywords=akg+d5s

http://www.amazon.com/AKG-Pro-Audio-Micr...eywords=akg+p5s

I own both models and other than cosmetics, you can not tell them apart for the Audio Quality.
I use them on my Demos/Clinics for the PSR S950/S750 also in my performances with the Tyros5, and also use them to record some Audio Multipads, both are amazing.

I love the E series. I'm using E935. Just got it after years of using E855, which they no longer make.
I've also tried and used a number of others with pretty good results, but always return to the Sennheisers. They have almost zero handling noise and very little if any e.q. is necessary.
I can see where one might get high-end feedback if you apply the "traditional" V-curve e.q. that is considered necessary for SM58s and many of its imitators. Just set e.q. flat, and then adjust in very small amounts to suit your voice, if necessary.
E935 is a little on the pricey end, but 835 is more affordable and close in performance.

Hi Mdorantes,

Thanks a lot for the suggestions. Again, the AKG mics are out of stock and will only arrive beginning of Feb. I have a gig on the 22nd and needed new mics. Anything else that you could suggest from Sennheiser, Samson, audio technica, rode...etc since these brands are readily availble in stock with a day's delivery.

Thanks

Sunny

Thanks DonM

Im going more toward the Sennheisers E835S. Probably will place an order today since I need it in the next 2 days. WHat do you suggest as a second back up MIC the SM58 or another Sennheiser.

I was also checking out the Shure SM58 Beta. Its expensive but how much better would it be than a normal SM58??

Oldfashioned me will allways choose senheiser, because in general i love the warmth and the accuracy of the sound, and they feel like a perfect build for my ears that does never irritate me...

Sunny, we use both the e835 and sm58. The e835 seems a bit more rugged and has better off axis rejection. Very good mike.

NOTE:.....I recommended the Ev N/D because of it's very high gain without using a mixer with preamp inputs or just plugging it into a KB like the S950 alone ....but if your using a Mixer with preamp Mic inputs my e845S Sennheiser with on/off switch sound amazing But need more gain to really sear thru the mix on stage rugged and better off axis rejection is correct...

Hi All,

Finally placed an order for the Sennheiser E835S. Hope it will be good! Also ordered a cordial mic cable.

Thanks all for the valuable suggestions!!

While I no longer use a handheld mic, when I did, the two best I discovered were the Sennheiser E855 and the Samson Q7. The Q7 has since been replaced by the Q8, which I understand is a bit fuller sounding.

Good luck,

Gary

I have several mics that I used a time or two and then put in the drawer, if anyone is interested. I'll make a list after while and post it here.

Above I said Sennheiser 935, but it's a 945. Senility issue.

Hi DonM

Thanks for the info. Im sure I will enjoy the Sennheiser 835s. I have been using cheap quality mics until now and I guess this will be a welcome change!!

Thanks

Sunny

Best mike I have is not handheld. Crown C311A head worn.

I also use E945 and I really like it a lot.
I would never get sm58. I hate that mike and the way it sounds. Too muddy for me..

Agreed! The SM58 was the gold standard 40 years ago, but things have improved considerably since that mic first became available.

Gary

Think about SM58s that I've found is that the old ones seem to be built better than the newer ones. Last one I had had so much handling noise I found it almost unusable. I tried another one and it was the same. They didn't use to be like that.

Mic signals can be EQ'd big time, The SM58 is a classic, ....It's what goes thru them that really matters!

Yes, we have several old SM-58's in the studio, and I'm glad we held on to them as the newer ones (not just Shure, by the way) might be less reliable.

I suspect some of it may be due to the type of solder used in newer products.

We had one client arrive with his brand new SM-58 and he was forced to use one of our older back-ups because of noise issues.

Hopefully, this was an isolated incident, as this could be very disappointing...an SM-58 was pretty much a sure bet if one needed a good microphone.


Ian

Interestingly, I just recently went through the same decision making exercise between the Shure SM58 vs the Sennheiser E845 (not the 835). I read every review I could about each and there's a lot of info available. Net summary in my analysis of all the other reports and ratings is: Most say the SM58 is very good. Most say the Sennheiser E845 is even better. Since the Sennheiser is a bit more expensive, it's not really a very fair comparison. However, I kept seeing this comparison come up when I was doing research on the Shure SM58. I ended up last week buying the Sennheiser E845 Super Cardioid Dynamic Mic. Even though it's more of a stage mic than a studio mic, I bought it for my home recording studio. Now having used it for a week, I find it super crisp, clear, yet still warm in tone. I experience no hum, no feedback. It's totally quiet. The handling noise is less than my other mics too. I now use the Sennheiser for both male and female vocals and is as true to good voice quality as I am looking for. The E845 is supercardiod so there is more of a proximity factor for it than the E835 (i.e. you'll lose pickup more quickly if you move your mouth away from the mic). But, in my case, that's good because I wanted more side rejection. I basically am getting the equivalent of a soundproof studio via my specialized mic, without installing all the room sound insulation that I would normally need for my recording purposes. I will keep it. BTW, you can often get a nice 15% off on great mics when the online music supply stores have their regular holiday sales. One other caveat: In the final analysis, the sound quality of different mics can be better or worse for certain voices, higher or lower, male or female, and different outcome preferences. The best thing is to try them out before making a final commitment to make sure it meets your personal taste and objectives.

Correction to my previous post. The Sennheiser mic I bought and referred to in my comparison is the E945 (not E845).

Having used both the SM58 and the E855, I can assure you that the E855 is light years ahead of the SM58 in every category.

Gary

Love the 945. I've been using it for a week after about 10 years of using 855. I still have two 855s. I guess I'll clean 'em up and toss 'em in the drawer with the other 15 or 20 mics. I like all of them for one reason or another. These are the ones that made the cut! But the 945 is the winner!